I guess the World Cup campaign from an English perspective?

It was a really tough proposition for England so they had to fly halfway around the world and played Tonga in the first game and We spoke about how good Tonga are, but they've got as big a pool of players as they have to pick from now.

Tonga and Samoa used to be big, strong lads, but then second half they'd get gassed and that's when you'd potentially get a bit of joy.

But all these lads that are playing in the NRL, they're all fit, they're all battle-hardened, they're all playing at a really high intensity.

So it's probably as good a squad as Samoa and Tonga have ever had.

So for England to fly halfway around the world.

Played Tonga in the very first game was tough and that game I went and I don't think England played bad.

I'm saying they're watching a lot more NRL now than

What does being a Lion mean to you?

Well, my first memories of, uh, of watching the Lions, uh, shared a room with two, two older brothers, and, um, the Saturday morning me dad come up shaking us all.

"Boys, boys, get up, get up, get downstairs." I didn't realize me dad had been up since f- half past five in the morning watching the recording, this, uh, this test match.

And we painted the picture.

He said [bang] we've not, we've not, we've not beat the others for 10 years.

Uh, the squad's decimated.

No one gives a chance.

Yeah.