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Um, so one of the first field trips I did doing marine science was up to Heron Island on the Great Barrier Reef, and me and a mate were supposed to be kind of paying attention to parrotfish eating algae as part of this study we were doing, but sharks swam past, like, right near where we were looking at these fish, and I remember it like it was yesterday, and this was like 20 years [laughs] ago.

I just kind of...

I, I locked onto it.

It, like, swam past as it didn't care that we were there, and it just looked amazing, like it was so well adapted to its environment, you know, so streamlined, so powerful.

And I just kind of forgot what I was doing and just swam after this thing.

Followed it for about five or 10 minutes, and from there I was like, "I wanna study those things.

Why are you working with them? What's appealing about that?