So is there anything you do outside of EY right now yourself or is right now the focus full on EY? Get some experiences there and then see if maybe at some day entrepreneurship will come your way again.

yeah so initially that was to be honest that was the plan so i'm already here for two and a half years now but originally was the plan okay hide in in in a salaried role for a while and then just go back and spin up a new company but right now i'm just being paid to connect with interesting people so i'm being paid to connect with founders investors enablers to talk with them and build relationships that's fun but on the side i've never really stopped building so i've built out two foundations uh both of things i think are very important that the world needs to see them and in this day and age where you know kind of what you want to exist and if it can exist those timelines have contracted of course with everyone automating everything with AI so I think if you feel like something you need to see in the world you can just build into existence this day and age so I did that with two foundations one of them is motivating people to go on a spiritual journey The other one is a VC acting as a venture philanthropy initiative, so a non-for-profit VC for a particular patient group, which is underserved and overlooked, basically investing in solutions that will help make tangible impact on their lives.

So I'm very passionate about them, and I think they combine also well with EY because I have many events where I wear, for example, homeostasis VC, that's the venture philanthropy name, homeostasis VC hat, and the other time I wear the EY hat, and it kind of crosses over because it builds an interesting profile.

One time you're investing or connecting with founders, the other time you are connecting with founders from a service provider hat.

So I think they kind of enforce each other because I build a huge network in both which help each other.

And then the media thing, or it's not really a media thing, the spiritual thing is just something I would love to see

I have no plan what that means.

No, no, that's cool because you brought out a cool quote.