But you're not listening to them on a very good audio system because you

just hear it on a tape recorder or you watch it on TV and you hear it.

And so a lot of those early 2000s songs that I grew up listening, I never got a chance to hear it properly.

So I think during the pandemic, I was gaming a lot on my PlayStation and I would, I think I would play like a cricket game on my PlayStation and I would just keep the Spotify playlist going behind it.

So it was like my meditation during the lockdown.

And like these older songs would show up and it was a chance for me because it was playing through like really good speakers that I had here.

And it was a chance to hear them properly.

I'm curious to know, having worked with him for so many years now, how has your perception of him and his music changed after working with him comparing to listening to him as a fan or listener?