What was that like for you? Did you, for instance, in your own teams, do you predominantly use Claude Code rather than Cowork or do you do a mix of both? I mean, first of all, let me take you through some of what happened in the

company.

So initially, Cloud Code was the big discovery.

Pushed that to everybody, really, to the technical and non-technical teams.

By far, the most enthusiastic adopters were the non-technical teams.

The technical teams were, hang on, but I want this in my code, so I want to control this and that and the other.

And so they were kind of looking at it really from the side and not sure how much to give it and how much to do themselves and so on.

People are just once the tool is effective and efficient and fast, as you say, people just follow, don't they?