So I'm curious, how did you, in what was at the time a very crowded field, how did you think about staying ahead of the pack?

So when we started, it was not that crowded yet.

Was Vanta, Drata had just started and maybe like another company, I think Secureframe.

Yeah, I think we, so we're looking at that space.

We're talking to a lot of startups in the YC community and we're asking like, okay, what things do we care about securing compliance and what would help you make your business better? It was very clear that, you know, they're addressing a real need.

It was also very clear that that party has started, you know? And I think, you know, when you start a company, timing is a lot.

Obviously, like in many cases, you know, it could be just maybe you're late, but, you know, you have some unfair advantage and some ability to speed and execute really well and you can get into it.

Can you say more on that? What does that mean that Node ecosystem is broken? You're saying all those NPM installs that Cloud is doing for me are not all perfectly safe?