All right, so what happened after Vanderbilt?

So I graduated in 2000, and as I was deciding what to do with my life, I saw friends of mine that were a year older that were paper millionaires in the tech business.

And I said, gosh, if they can do that, I can do that.

So I went to work for a tech company.

I saw my stock options go from 12 to 120 to six, all within the first few months of working there.

And it just wasn't for me.

That large corporate America wasn't something that was exciting enough for me.

Is it because of your engineering background that that sort of what drove you to, I don't know, doing something a little different and that you guys were being more cowboyish and sort of par for the course in that region and you wanted a more institutionalized type of