Can you talk to me about like that decision to bring some of that in?

Yeah, and I'll also speak to some of the other points about like applied improvisation where it's part of our regular lives too.

But yeah, we, so both Graham and I had been going to improv classes and we felt like the classes were to train you to be a stage performer and that's great.

We love, it's super fun to perform on stage.

But we also felt like the skills in the class were super relevant to life.

And also one of the things that happens in improv is it's one of people's biggest fears to speak in front of people, especially to express and try.

Like you don't want to try and be funny in improv, but naturally you end up trying to be funny or try and be entertaining.

Do you want to share who are some of your mentors right now or who have been some of your mentors in the past? Or if there's just been an absence of that, as there has been for many of us like me, like just speaking to the absence of it is fine, too.

improve and to know, right? Who were some of your mentors or the people you looked up to as a young writer before you really took off yourself?

Yeah.

I think the great thing about being a writer is that your mentors are the authors that you love.

So my first mentor, I think, in life was probably Jack Kerouac.

you know, and his crew and like on the road.

And a lot of people have heard of the book.

Maybe you've read it, maybe you haven't, but like it's all the stuff that I did as a young person wanting to be out there, wanting to like get the full flow of life.

Yeah.

People don't read

enough.

People don't read enough.

I hope you're all reading.

I hope you have books by your nightstand you're all reading.

But...

But I will say this about – so here's how nonfiction books are published and here's how fiction – so we'll start with nonfiction.

What are your thoughts on using AI in your work as well as some industry standards like how the New York Times is grappling with AI

Actually makes it harder.

I wish, I wish less people would care.

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And that's, that's the main thing they're trying to avoid.