obviously you've laid out a positive trajectory for the industry but there's still a challenge isn't there to you know tell the offshore wind story and to counter those claims that it's high cost and unreliable in particular on cost like what will we see in ARA do you think and what is industry trying to do to counter that narrative?

Yeah, there's a lot in all of that and that's obviously something that in industry a lot of us have been grappling with over the last couple of years.

And we'll probably return to the topic of how we tell our story and whether we can tell that story better.

But just going on to the cost point first.

For AR8, I'm going to avoid laying any numbers down.

Anything I predict will be totally wrong.

But if you look back, there was analysis commissioned and published around AR7, and even with upward pressure we've had on cost of energy, I think we're still able to demonstrate value for money as a technology in offshore wind.

What are the issues that you're dealing with at OWIC and engaging with government on to try and manage and help those developers that have those headaches?

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Uh, and, and this is a country with a different alphabet, so they don't speak English in general there.

So walking down the street with Ohio on, on that.

And then about 30 seconds later, the Lord spoke to me through Psalm 84:5, and said, "Blessed are those whose strength is in you, in whose hearts are the highways to Zion." In the ESV it's translated to Zion, and I felt the Lord saying, "You're going to Zion." I had no idea about, uh, what Zion was, where it was, but I knew there was something at Zion that he had for us.

And that was, of course, here we are four years later.

So I wanted to encourage the staff here because, you know, what you all are doing, uh, it, it, it, I feel like the Lord's just really impressing on me.

It carries weight.

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