Can you kinda let our audience know, like, give me your backstory real quick, the elevator Adam Gray hobby backstory.

Uh, I've collected my whole life.

Um, collected fr- from the late '80s to today.

Never really, never stopped.

Worked at a card shop for years.

Flipped cards in the late '90s to pay for my mission, served a mission in England, um, and paid for my undergraduate and master's degrees flipping cards, and then, um, got to the point where around 2010, bought my house.

Had to sell my whole collection.

Okay.

Like, what is it about cards that you are not only drawn to collect, but build a career around at this point?

Man, that's a real soul-searching question, Rhett.

I'm serious.

It is.

I, um, I wanna say a few things about this.

Um, so I didn't know that this would become a career.

I didn't.

And, and, and using that as a product to then go to other businesses a- and say, "I, I can do this for you too." Like, how, how did that all take shape?

Yeah

... for the Pistons.

And then in round three, um, you know, assuming that it stays like this, like Celt- the Celtics are gonna get back Tatum, and Tatum and the Celtics are gonna be, I, I think that they're gonna be formidable.

I do.

I don't see any reason why they wouldn't.

They've been formidable without him.

They've been good without him.

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