So first question, do you still do some shooting like for fun or like any commercial work anymore? And secondly, like lead me to that decision of like, I'm going to put this on pause when to maybe everyone else, it looks like you're putting a dream job on pause.

Yeah, great question.

Something that like I wrestled with and thought about for a long, long time, right? I think first and foremost, and we know this, you know this, any athlete knows this, anybody that has spent any amount of time building a brand, pursuing, you know, any pursuit training, just anything in particular, it kind of becomes not a part of your identity, like it becomes your identity, right? Um, and I'm sure this is probably something that you wrestled with when you hung it up racing, you know, as well.

But, um, yeah, I, I lived by all accounts, but a pretty dreamy lifestyle, you know, traveled to the far corners of the globe.

Um, I could, I always say I started shooting skiing cause I couldn't tell my wife I was going skiing every day, but I could tell her I was going to work, quote unquote, air quotes, big, big air quotes.

Um, so yeah, like I was doing what I loved.

Um, And, you know, ultimately, I mean, there's some like freelancing is it definitely takes its toll.

Tell me about the thinking there and like why evolve instead of just stick to your guns on for men.