Well, can you walk me through the casting process for this film? Yeah.

Yeah, so it was, I didn't have role breakdowns really for any of the characters.

Apart from age of Tom and apart from age of some of the women, I didn't want there to be a massive age gap.

But other than that, there wasn't really a role breakdown.

So it was pretty open.

We saw a lot of people I watched every tape because I when I first started in film I always I was always writing but I was an actor and I just been for so many years I auditioned and I didn't like the process at all very few auditions I went on where I felt like I was actually learning something from the director or in a relationship with the director or actually, my performance really mattered.

So I never want to make actors feel like what they're bringing to the table or if they prepare and they really care about the role, I never want them to feel like they're discredited.

And then Ace, for you, do you feel like any of those programs help are helping you? Or do you feel like you've had to take a step back with that one year old because of you care about obviously being around your child? Because there are there things we as an industry we can do, like Cinecamp, like any other ideas you might have that make it easier for parents to also continue being filmmakers?