Mm.

And I chased, I ...

And I got some, you know, credentials.

I, I, I worked with these producers and these artists.

And, um, after leaving my job in 2008, I, I mean, I had a lot of success.

And then the s- the recession hit, and I kind of fell on my face.

And I remember going to a midweek church some of my boys went to.

Uh-huh.