
Abe O'Donnell
New Zealand-based coach and activist specializing in health, fitness, and youth development with a focus on vegan advocacy and sustainability.
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Jul 23, 2026
#217 Abe O'Donnell
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Abe O'DonnellGUEST
So I didn't really... do triathlon at the level to get into uh into the professional the pro carded category i sort of stopped doing cycling when i was year 13 and i um sort of missed on every the older you get the higher level across each free disciplines you have to do to get into it and that includes swimming which i was not doing that much so so um so triathlon age group seemed like a good good uh for me to just aim for um so yeah that on the day i probably i did i played it pretty safe that that year i'd done a few harder races or i'd push myself harder not duathlons like the marathon or something yeah yeah but in that i was There was other eight people.

Rich EllisHOST
Tell us a little bit more about that because for those who are not familiar with eating vegan but adding in some endurance and competitive endurance as well, What's the recipe for success with that? And what made you decide to choose to be a vegan
A Vegan Lounge - Abe O'Donnel - AI, Abundance, and the Future of Veganism
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Abe O'DonnellGUEST
Well, I think maybe notions of liberalism have flipped a lot and we're flipping more, but I think there'll be like statism versus liberalism in the future.

Abe O'DonnellGUEST
So there'll be an idea of the state has currency at the moment and the Then there's cryptocurrencies, which are tied to network states, tech giants.

Abe O'DonnellGUEST
The state is like pro-public services, like police versus privatized police, or versus, you know, their currency versus that currency.

Abe O'DonnellGUEST
But then they're like... how does, how is the government going to have control of these giants that are just able to have all these things? I think that they would need to be like, you have to distribute not money, but you distribute AI computing power to, to people as like a, that's called a universal basic compute.

Abe O'DonnellGUEST
So that's the idea that the, the government will require these companies to distribute the compute and, But then they should probably also limit these companies from having a certain amount of compute per maybe person working for them or in their company.

Abe O'DonnellGUEST
Because then it's like, and then it would be like a person sending their robot to work.
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