
Abby Emerson
Assistant Professor of Education at Touro University; antiracist and abolitionist education scholar; author of "From Antiracism to Abolition: Professional Learning for Liberating Schools"
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Jun 17, 2026
189. From Antiracism to Abolition with Abby Emerson
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from teachers being like, I need some time to actually implement this into the practicalities of my classroom and the curriculum and my individual students to grappling with, which I think there are so many things, you know, that on a structural level really need a lot of work and then individuals doing great work towards these things and And grappling with, you know, how much you can change individually versus on a structural level.

Abby EmersonGUEST
And so I did find, you mentioned wanting to hear about some, you know, hopeful moments in there too.

Abby EmersonGUEST
Unfortunately, they were outliers, but there were a couple of schools that I would say were tackling those two kind of concerns in different ways where they were saying, hey, No, we want to relate to our students differently.

Abby EmersonGUEST
You know, we want our students to have a different experience with us as educators in that day to day interactions and whatnot.

Abby EmersonGUEST
And we also we want to make change within our school that's far reaching and is not reliant on kind of, you know, an eager or well, you know, good intentions, you know, teacher as an individual, but something that as a school we are collectively working towards, you know.