There's so many directions we could go because I know that the conversation that I heard was very... deep and very powerful but i'd love to know if you if you'd be open to this sharing sort of how this whole vision thing came together because you don't just like map out a vision let's just see how our five to ten years are you you have something in there that i found very profound that a lot of people don't and that's when when the stakes have risen so if you're open to it mate would love to hear how this all came together for you first

Well, I'll share from two different angles.

I'll share what vision was to me and then when vision changed.

When I was in my 20s and started a company and was starting to coach, I was an athletics coach and I had built my own business.

So I was moonlighting, daylighting in both of these arenas.

The environment that I was around in personal development was all about vision and vision boards.

And they were all over the place, right? You put this Christmas list of stuff together and you slap it on your laptop background.

Here's the