Think there's potential for AI to solve all this tech debt, or do you think people kind of overapply it and end up digging a deeper hole?

That's a great question.

And so when I've had ...

I was moderating some tables yesterday, and the, the questions that I ask and the answers I get are basically AI is being used at a lot of B2Bs.

They're pointing the agents in in their own business.

They're trying to automate paperwork.

They're trying to automate workflows and processes for themselves.

Sure.