You couldn't imagine a bigger difference between two drivers in the same team in Ryan and Zach, but... know they're just contrasting personalities and as such you know they probably complement each other in some ways

yeah it's it's cool to to being able to watch zach from afar and always racing i've known rick for a long time uh it's actually funny story i i did my first ever car race with rick as my teammate and bob pearson's product evo in australian production cars so it was um It was almost like a full circle moment that I've co-drived with Rick and now I've co-drived with Zach.

So, yeah, it's been cool to watch Zach come through the ranks.

Obviously, he did super well in 86s and I think he won the championship there as well as he won the championship in Super 2 with Wilkinshaws.

And, yeah, he's been doing a phenomenal job throughout his whole career and it's cool to see him get this success because he's certainly earned it.

The thing that I suppose is most surprising about the way he goes about his business, he has such calmness about him, which I'm sure as a co-driver with him, you would really enjoy.

Yeah, absolutely.

And in those high-pressure moments, you really need that calmness.

you

reckon? The one practice session.

I think I was so busy just getting up to speed with the walls and the car and everything in that first practice, whereas everyone else was developing the car, one lap, two lap runs, making improvements.

And we sort of started a fair way out the window and it just took me too long to develop the car to a spot where...

I was comfortable and getting the most out of the car.

So definitely with you guys who were seven rounds in, it was very hard to be on pace straight away.

Yeah.

Sort of just the day-to-day