When, when you talk about recovery, do you ever-- Do you feel like you recovered, or are you always in recovery? Do you still use these tools, and do you still have those same temptations?

I'm recovered from a hopeless state of body and mind.

I will always be recovering from the disease of alcoholism and addiction.

That's never gonna change.

And to some degree, I don't want that to change because everybody goes through things in life.

Everybody goes through stresses.

Everybody goes through character defects flaring up, shortcomings manifesting in strange ways, um, needing to take a look inside, relying on God, all these things.

Mm-hmm.