yeah i was just curious from that you know i didn't know if it seems like more of the conservation organizations and stuff are coming around to realizing the importance of animal integration and agriculture in a conservation context and that just letting stuff sit isn't gonna really get the if it's not that then it's a bunch of mechanical and chemical you know i don't know what the words are actions to try and replicate or yeah interventions to make things happen so cool but uh anyway i guess then moving into you started thinking more seriously about this being a career and moving out to this land base that you had what what what did that look like then and what kind of decisions did you make early investments did you make and and whatnot That land

base was not a reality at the time.

So this would have been 2016 and my grandmother was still alive and my grandmother and I were very close.

But long story short, she wasn't particularly interested in handing over the keys to So the kingdom.

And in reality, quite frankly, so this 120 acres that we have in the family, only 23 acres of it's actually tillable.

The rest of it's woods and stuff.

So it wasn't a whole heck of a lot there.

Mm-hmm.