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... and lots of dance classes, um, at Rutgers.

I took modern and ballet and improvisation, and then I didn't do it again for a long time.

And then I lived in Leeds, the north of England, which is another reason why this film is meaningful to me.

Lived in Leeds for 14 years, and I started dancing again.

There's a really good dance school in Leeds, uh, Northern Contemporary, and they, there were some young dancers who were doing improvisation stuff, and I started dancing with them, and then ended up doing some kinda philosophy of, philosophy and dance projects with them.

So I've been dancing a long time.

Yeah.