But it's certainly the cards are on the table for China and for Russia.

So I'm going to show my age briefly here.

And I think I might be the youngest one of the four of us as I say that.

So 2014 or 15, AFA Winter.

So the one that used to be down in Florida, it's now in Colorado.

Willie Shelton was the head of Air Force Space Command at the time, which is as big as the space world got back then.

And he was up there with a presentation and he was just going through his slides and he casually mentions GSAP, this thing, and it keeps going.

Speaking about low T, anything going to happen? Anything