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Aaron Leonard

Aaron J. Leonard is an American author and historian of radicalism and state repression, author of "The Folk Singers and the Bureau" and "Menace of Our Time: The Long War Against American Communism" (Rutgers University Press, 2025).

Oct 1, 2026

22:19
So what is it about the 30s that I would say makes it the heyday of the Communist Party in the United States?
22:26
There's a couple of things.
22:28
First off, like the 20s, the communists are largely operating underground in the wake of the Palmer raids.
22:37
Lenin basically says, look, I just read this pamphlet you guys produced and published and you did it legally.
22:44
Why are you underground? Here in the Soviet, here in Tsarist Russia, we tried to do that.
22:50
We would be rounded up and sent to the gulags.
22:54
You obviously have some freedom.

27 MINS LATER

49:49
Why do you think that what happened with CPUS actually gets less attention than radical media in history? And you talked about War Churchill a little bit, and I think there's a little bit of the Churchill thesis, I guess you could say, but like, why do you think CPUS gets less attention than those notable historical events like the assassination of Fred Hampton and what happened with King and just the Black Panthers and AIM in general?
23:58
Yeah.
23:59
Um, so you, which has kind of presented, you know, profound challenges for, for activists, you know, wanting to, to conceive of a better world.
24:09
But there, there was a materiality and a material basis for this thing to spring up.
24:15
But they sprang up kind of to your question of why was it they were never as big a deal as in other countries, in a country that was on the rise, that was going to become a global super- I want to read something...
24:27
That was become the preeminent global superpower.
24:31
I want to read the opening of my book, 'cause I, I think this goes to it.
24:35
Um...The fireworks display at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo on September 5, 1901 was a sight to behold.

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35:19
Mm-hmm.

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