And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah, well said.

Yeah, I mean, like you said, the main goal, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one to.

reach as you say the skeptics um or i would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff um we wanted to make it as digestible as possible and as as um You know, there's so much.

This is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very, like, esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? uh might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or anything, to come across this, would they not be turned off? Even if there's things in there, they might be like, eh.

would they at least be intrigued and be like, whoa, there's definitely something to this.

Aaron, what were your thoughts? What are your thoughts on what he just said?

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And there's so much evidence there.

Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, would, to come across this, w- would they not be turned off? It, you know, even if there's things in there, they might be like, "Eh." Would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kinda had that goal in mind, to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n-name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across this subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject, and, and this person was on that show.

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And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah, well said.

Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal.

Well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one to.

reach as you say the skeptics um or i would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff um we wanted to make it as digestible as possible and as as um You know, there's so much.

This is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very, like, esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? uh might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

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You know, there...

And there's so much evidence there.

Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net essentially to, to...

We're like, "Okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, would, to come across this, w- would they not be turned off?" It, you know, even if there's things in there they might be like, "Eh," would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kinda had that goal in mind to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately [laughs] has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n-name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across the subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject.

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And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah, well said.

Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal.

Well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one to.

reach as you say the skeptics um or i would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff um we wanted to make it as digestible as possible and as as um You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? uh might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or anything, to come across this, would they not be turned off? Even if there's things in there, they might be like, eh.

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And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah, well said.

Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one to.

Reach, as you say, the skeptics or I would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff.

We wanted to make it as digestible as possible and as as You know, there's so much.

This is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very, like, esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know so we kind of tried to make it and also as 3D meaning like as much earth based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

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And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah.

Well said, um, Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one, to reach, as you say, the skeptics, um, or I would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff.

Um, we wanted to make it as digestible as possible.

And as, as, um, You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? uh might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or...

Aaron, what were your thoughts? What are your thoughts on what he just said?

And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah.

Well said, um, yeah i mean like you said the the main goal well i guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one to reach as you say the skeptics um or i would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff um we wanted to make it as digestible as possible and as as um You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very quote unquote out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the cloning, go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know so we kind of tried to make it and also as 3D meaning like as much earth based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or... anything you know would to come across this would they not be turned off you know even if there's things in there they might be like would they at least be intrigued and be like whoa there's definitely something to this so we kind of had that goal in mind to capture a wide audience get them interested in realizing there is some something real going on here and i'm going to investigate further and number two i would say is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to this subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years or really longer, but especially over that timeframe based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not going to name here.

But yeah, It's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across the subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that kind of like really popularized the subject and this person was on that show.

So they kind of, in most people's minds, became synonymous with the subject or at least like in their minds, at least he was the first person person to come out, which is not true at all.

But in most people's minds, they don't they didn't really research it as much as we have.

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Yeah.

You know, there...

And there's so much evidence there.

Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, would, to come across this, w- would they not be turned off, you know? Even if there's things in there, they might be like, "Eh." Would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kinda had that goal in mind, to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some, something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately [laughs] has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n- name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across this subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject, and, and this person was on that show.

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And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah.

Well said, um, Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one, to reach, as you say, the skeptics, um, or I would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff.

Um, we wanted to make it as digestible as possible.

And as, as, um, You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? uh might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or...

Aaron, what were your thoughts? What are your thoughts on what he just said?

And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah, well said.

Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one, to reach, as you say, the skeptics, or I would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff.

We wanted to make it as digestible as possible.

And as, you know, there's so much, this is a vast subject, and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very, like, esoteric and Talking about ETs and other planets and ships and super soldiers and cloning.

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Aaron, what were your thoughts? What are your thoughts on what he just said?

And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah, well said.

Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one, to, reach as you say the skeptics um or i would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff um we wanted to make it as digestible as possible and as as um You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know so we kind of tried to make it and also as 3D meaning like as much earth based right earth based and military and things like that as possible because there is a lot of that you know and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or... anything you know would to come across this would they not be turned off you know even if there's things in there they might be like would they at least be intrigued and be like whoa there's definitely something to this so we kind of had that goal in mind to capture a wide audience get them interested in realizing there is some something real going on here and i'm going to investigate further and number two i would say is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to this subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years or really longer but especially over that time frame uh based on a certain individual who i'm not we're not gonna name here um but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90 or more of people that came across the subject, came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that kind of like really popularized the subject.

And this person was on that show.

So they kind of, in most people's minds, became synonymous with the subject, or at least like in their minds, at least he was the first subject.

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And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah.

Well said, um, Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one, to reach, as you say, the skeptics, um, or I would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff.

Um, we wanted to make it as digestible as possible.

And as, as, um, You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? uh might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or...

Aaron, what were your thoughts? What are your thoughts on what he just said?

And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah.

Well said, um, Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one, to reach, as you say, the skeptics, um, or I would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff.

Um, we wanted to make it as digestible as possible.

And as, as, um, You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? uh might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or...

Aaron, what were your thoughts? What are your thoughts on what he just said?

Yeah.

You know, there...

And there's so much evidence there.

Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, would, to come across this, would they not be turned off? It, you know, even if there's things in there, they might be like, "Eh." Would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kind of had that goal in mind, to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n-name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across this subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject, and, and this person was on that show.

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And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah.

Well said, um, Yeah.

I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one, to reach, as you say, the skeptics, um, or I would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff.

Um, we wanted to make it as digestible as possible.

And as, as, um, You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? uh might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there So we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially.

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or...

Aaron, what were your thoughts? What are your thoughts on what he just said?

And Aaron, if you wanted to piggyback off of that.

Yeah, well said.

Yeah, I mean, like you said, the main goal, well, I guess there's kind of two main goals to it were number one, to reach as you say the skeptics um or i would just say people that just don't know anything about this stuff um we wanted to make it as digestible as possible and as as um You know, there's so much, this is a vast subject and it gets very, quote unquote, out there, right? It gets very like esoteric and, you know, talking about ETs and other planets and ships and, you know, super soldiers and go down the list, right? There's just so much that somebody that doesn't have any background in that information, right? might be turned off if you go kind of like too much too soon you know um so we kind of tried to make it and also as as 3d meaning like the as much earth-based right earth-based and military and things like that as possible because there's a lot of that you know there and there's so much evidence there so we're trying to cast a wide net essentially to to we're like okay if somebody knows nothing not even anything about any of the ufo stuff ufology or or um anything you know would to come across this would they not be turned off you know even if there's things in there they might be like uh would they at least be intrigued and be like, whoa, there's definitely something to this.

So we kind of had that goal in mind to capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is something real going on here and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to this subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years or really longer but especially over that time frame uh based on a certain individual who i'm not we're not gonna name here um but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90 or more of people that came across the subject, came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that kind of like really popularized the subject.

And this person was on that show.

So they kind of, in most people's minds, became synonymous with the subject or at least like in their minds, at least he was the first subject.

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... as much Earth-based, right, Earth-based and military and things like that as possible, because there's a lot of that, you know? There, and there's so much evidence there.

Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, were to come across this, w- would they not be turned off? It, you know, even if there's things in there they might be like, "Eh," would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kind of had that goal in mind to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n- name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across the subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject, and, and this person was on that show.

So they kind of, in most people's minds, became synonymous with the subject, or at least, like, in their minds at least, he was the first person to come out, which is not true at all.

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Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, were to come across this, w- would they not be turned off? It, you know, even if there's things in there, they might be like, "Eh." Would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kinda had that goal in mind, to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n- name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across this subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject, and, and this person was on that show.

So they kind of, in most people's minds, became synonymous with the subject, or at least, like, in their minds at least, he was the first person to come out, which is not true at all.

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You know, there, and there's so much evidence there.

Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net essentially to, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, would, to come across this, w- would they not be turned off? It, you know, even if there's things in there they might be like, "Eh," would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kinda had that goal in mind to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

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Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across this subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject, and, and this person was on that show.

So they kind of, in most people's minds, became synonymous with the subject, or at least, like, in their minds at least he was the first person to come out, which is not true at all.

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And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n- name here.

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We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, were to come across this, w- would they not be turned off? It, you know, even if there's things in there, they might be like, "Eh." Would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kinda had that goal in mind, to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n- name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across this subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject and, and this person was on that show.

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Earth-based

... as much Earth-based, right, Earth-based and military and things like that as possible, because there's a lot of that, you know? There, and there's so much evidence there.

Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, would, to come across this, w- would they not be turned off? It, you know, even if there's things in there they might be like, "Eh." Would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kinda had that goal in mind, to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n- name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across the subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject and, and this person was on that show.

So they kind of, in most people's minds, became synonymous with the subject, or at least, like, in their minds at least, he was the first person to come out, which is not true at all.

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Earth-based

... as much Earth-based, right, Earth-based and military and things like that as possible, because there's a lot of that, you know? There...

And there's so much evidence there.

Um, so we're trying to cast a wide net, essentially, to, to...

We're like, okay, if somebody knows nothing, not even anything about any of the UFO stuff, ufology or, or, um, anything, you know, were to come across this, w- would they not be turned off? It, you know, even if there's things in there, they might be like, "Eh." Would they at least be intrigued and be like, "Whoa, there's definitely something to this"? So we kinda had that goal in mind to, uh, capture a wide audience, get them interested in realizing there is some r- something real going on here, and I'm gonna investigate further.

And number two, I would say, is we wanted to kind of bring the credibility back to the subject that unfortunately has been very damaged over at least the last five or six years, or really longer, but especially over that timeframe, uh, based on a certain individual who I'm not, we're not gonna n- name here.

Um, but it's unfortunate because it seems like 90% or more of people that came across the subject came across it because of this individual or because of the show on Gaia that, um, kind of, like, really popularized the subject and, and this person was on that show.

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