Like, just talk about this evolution for you personally and disappointment, it sounds like, from what you opened with.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, I think I have to go all the way back to sort of my – initial disillusionment with Donald Trump, which started in COVID.

So people fail to remember that COVID began and the policies that began, began under Donald Trump.

And they began, you know, all of the stuff about shutting down the country in two weeks to flatten your life and all the rest of that stuff that came out of that era.

started in March of 2020.

And in February of 2020, Donald Trump looked unbeatable politically.

Aaron Everitt, you had a thought.

I didn't realize your wife, well, yeah, she wasn't in the band.

She wasn't to start, no.

It was a bunch of buddies from college.

And then we met her through our travels in Canada.

We always kind of finished our summer season at a camp, at a kid's camp that a buddy of ours ran.

And it was free food and a place to play some music for a couple of weeks in the summer, a place to lay our heads.

And she was on staff at the camp that summer.

yeah big horn mountains it's on time capsule this song is about right here tell us what what what's going on with this song

Erin, tell us a little bit about who you were before COVID and how you thought about vaccines.

Yeah, I'm a pretty countercultural guy, generally speaking.

So we don't do traditional health insurance.

We do everything through a co-op, sort of a faith-based co-op.

And because we do that, we learned really early on to start sort of talking and shopping how the medical system works.

And so every choice we make costs us out of pocket.

So we're pretty conscientious, I guess, about how we proceed with any of those things.

We know

Tell us what your reaction is, and also I'd love to just learn, like, why is Thomas Massie such a significant figure in MAHA? And I would love to, y- you know, throw that to the, the bigger group as well.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, Massie is a super interesting character.

He's kind of this leftover from the Tea Party, which, um, y- you know, he was a pretty young guy when all of that was going on and, and ultimately becomes a part of Congress, and then starts to become a voice that I think a lot of people really resonated with.

I mean, from the MAHA perspective or sort of even Kennedy adjacent people, he was pretty compelling because he understands agriculture, regen- regenerative agriculture for sure, but also just has this kind of, these instincts about money and debt and, and how dysfunctional Washington ultimately is.

And, and he's probably one of the only voices that really consistently called that out over the, over his career.

Now, you know, the last little bit, it's been a war with Trump, and I think he went to battle with him over some things that ultimately cost him this primary race.

R-Respond to what Craig and Nahid are saying.