So what, what were you breeding for?

Yeah, it's, you know, when, when we actually started, uh, you know, the, the initial, um, the initial thoughts behind the cross, um, We're really about yield improvement over the varieties that were out there currently, as well as bringing in some additional leaf disease resistance, trying to make some improvements there.

And then of course, with it being malting barley, quality is really the driving characteristic that's going to make or break the varieties.

When we really got into the selection phase for this variety or when it was still in its testing system in our breeding program, you know, Copeland was actually really just starting to get going.

It was sort of around 2009, 2010 that Copeland was really starting to take off and become, you know, the dominant malting barley variety.

It had sort of had a slow start, but really got rolling there.

So we were seeing that.

Yeah, of course, those tens of thousands all cost money.