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A.J. Rice

A.J. Rice

CEO of Publius PR in Washington D.C., conservative columnist and author of "The Curse of the Bearded Lady" and #1 Amazon bestseller "The Woking Dead."

Oct 30, 2026

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How how pointed was I to think about that?
16:22
Well, sure.
16:23
And that story, it looks like there are villains on all sides.
16:27
Um, but it's, it's kind of a snapshot of once you descend down into the bearded lady, trans mafia rabbit hole, you get a souffle of deviancy.
16:39
You get a beef stew of they's and them's and, and it's, and you know, everything else.
16:46
Um, And it's confusion, right? The left knows dependence breeds confusion.
16:52
And, you know, it's funny because they don't even know how to write about it.

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Well, look,
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but not liberate.
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Sure.
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Uh, you know, Debbie Does Cornell.
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I mean, the reality is that we've had at least two big high-profile cases in the last couple decades that turned out to be fake, right? Um, and, you know, which is Duke Lacrosse and of, of course, the Rolling Stone UVA case.
40:32
And then, you know, in addition to that, all throughout the Me Too movement, uh, fanaticism, we saw all kinds of accusations flying all over the place, which kind of muddied the waters of the real ones.
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You know, the Harvey Weinstein stuff.
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We, we saw Aziz Ansari attempted to be taken down.
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Yeah
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Just recap those first two volumes just real fast.
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Well, I mean, The Woking Dead came out in 2022, and The Woking Dead was kind of a...
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I was trying to put together a unified theory of wokeness where, you know, I was covering all of the political correctness and the social justice warrior fights that were happening, a lot of the Me Too movement, right? And when I was...
18:45
So it was kind of like a potpourri of craziness, whereas with the White Privilege album, I kind of distilled down the race hustle.
18:53
It was mainly about how...
18:56
This myth of the very fine people, because the subtitle of that book was bringing racial harmony to very fine people on both sides.
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You know, the very fine people, it turns out they're in Charlottesville.
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So there's probably going to be more of that coming.
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[laughs] Just recap those first two volumes, just real fast.
18:39
Well, I mean, The Woke-ing Dead came out in 2022, and The Woke-ing Dead was kind of a...
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I was trying to put together a unified theory of wokeness, where, you know, I was covering all of the political correctness and the social justice warrior fights that were happening, a lot of the Me Too movement, right? Um, and when I was...
18:58
Uh, so it was kind of like a potpourri of craziness, whereas with The White Privilege Album, I kind of distilled down the race hustle.
19:06
It was mainly about how this myth of the very fine people, because the subtitle of that book was Bringing Racial Harmony to Very Fine People on Both Sides.
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You know, the very fine people, it turns out, there in Charlottesville, when Trump said that 10 years ago, it turns out, now that we've, we've sort of uncovered this, that the Southern Poverty Law Center was actually paying neo-Nazis to walk out of the cornfield.
19:30
So, and I...
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but there must have been a ton of backlash, given that this is the third book, so there's probably gonna be more of that coming.
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Let's talk for a second, though, because I'm here.
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I'm in the swamp.
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And let's talk about how...
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OK, so one of the reasons Republicans, Reagan in particular, you know, Mies and others, one of the reasons the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute and the Cato Foundation and there's others.
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I mean, these are basically three different flavors.
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Heritage is sort of traditional conservatism.

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Mel KHOST
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Okay.
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What's the, what's the Elijah joke?
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joke?Uh, he, he, well, inter- it's open to interpretation based on how good your Hebrew is.
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But I've, I've, I've run this by some people, and I haven't written about Elijah, but I've been told by different rabbis and Jewish people that he was funny, okay? So, but let me, let me stick with the Greeks for a second.
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You have a guy, Aristophanes, who is putting on, with a chorus, a government-funded anti-war play in the middle of Athens, where he's making fun of the Peloponnesian War, Spartans and A- and Athenians killing each other, both Greek, and he's putting on a drunken wine festival that is getting government money, and he's making fun of the fucking politicians directly to their faces in the audience.
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Directly to their faces.
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People that are supporting foreign wars, people that are supporting the civil war that's going on, and he's doing it, and they don't kill him.
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They don't murder him.

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Oh, did we? Okay.
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[laughs] I don't know what that is."
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That's right.
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It's a Rorschach test.
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Exactly right.
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Well, look, and I wanted to channel the circ- as you can see there, the circus freak notion.
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I wanted to go Dumbo meets, uh, Tim Burton.
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Uh, you know, you had the bearded lady, you had the strong man, you had the contortionist.

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Yep
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I don't disagree with you.
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Sure.
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You know, don't let your, you know, 80 percent friend be your 20 percent enemy, as, you know, Duke Ingram used to say.
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Correct.
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You know, my books, I was raised on Rush.
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I was raised on Howard and others.
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I am a fan of stand up comedy.
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Neither.
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Well,
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Socrates drank hemlock, and a lot of people, this has been debated whether Socrates was a real person, because the only accounts of Socrates we have come from Plato, his students.
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So there are some people that think that Socrates was a teaching avatar of Plato.
41:58
But we do know that Aristotle was real, who was Plato's student.
42:03
But let's get into the satirists because Plato didn't like jokes.
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Plato wanted jokes and the humorists and the satirists and the impresarios banned from – you know, the cities, the city state, the polis, right? He wanted them run out of town.
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So let's talk about one for a second here because you'll love this considering what's going on in the world right now.

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did we? Okay.
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How fishy is that, though? I mean, who is this person and why?
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, you know, and I, you know.
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People are going to look into it, Selena Zito and others.
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But when you're talking about trans violence, guys, and you're talking about what has gone on with the culture here really in the last 10 years.
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And look, I'm not a prude.
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I'm a wise guy from Philadelphia.

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Right.
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How fishy is that, though? I mean, who is this person and why?
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, you know, and I, you know.
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People are going to look into it, Selena Zito and others.
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But when you're talking about trans violence, guys, and you're talking about what has gone on with the culture here really in the last 10 years.
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And look, I'm not a prude.
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I'm a wise guy from Philadelphia.
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Why do you say that?
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And it puts truth into a, first of all, it either shines a light on something that you hadn't seen that was right in front of you, or it kind of wraps it in a package that you can digest it more easily.
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Absolutely.
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And some people say it's the ability to transform horror into humor, right? So it's tragedy plus time equals comedy.
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And Adam's a master of it.
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Rush used to say his job was to use irreverent humor to illustrate truth.
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So I have always found...
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I've always found that rebellion sometimes doesn't move as fast as ridicule, that ridicule kind of moves faster.
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And before the break, I asked AJ to do a little thought experiment for me about time travel and mass formation.
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How did this happen, A.J.?
3:30
It's a social contagion, my friend.
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Social contagion mixed with peer pressure becomes a peer contagion, and it has spread like a mass delusion.
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We've had others.
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You know, in the last 10 years we've had others.
3:43
But when something like this that makes up a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of society gets picked up by the Democrat Party, by academia, by our friends in Hollywood, by members of the media, and everyone pretends that underneath, you know, the Democrat Party skirt there are 72 genders-

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Mm.
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And you have virtue signaling.
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How do you combat it other than laugh at it?
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That's right.
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I mean, you have to.
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I mean, you always remember, and you know what, you know, I've been on here with the Woking Dead and the White Privilege album.
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Comedy is moral warfare by other means.
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You have to go there.
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You have to, because some of this stuff, Democrat Party lifts up their skirt and there's 72 genders under there.
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financing our own destruction.
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Mm-hmm
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... which has sort of become part of the sort of terminology and parlance here.
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Um, it is.
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I mean, look, I do political satire.
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Comedy's a little different than satire.
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Comedy, you know, a little Seinfeld action, have yourself a belly laugh, Jeff Foxworthy observational humor, and then you go home, and you go to bed, and you don't think about it anymore.
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Satire is there to make you feel uncomfortable.
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[laughs]
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Confusion and chaos are their friend.
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Absolutely.
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And look, I wrote about that in the White Privilege album.
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The three things under assault is Western Civ, so Greco-Roman Judeo-Christian civilization, the nuclear family, Black Lives Matter told us that on their website, and of course, the middle class.
105:46
If they can shake these things, and they do it with different flavored totalitarian ice cream, right? So Antifa does this, the Me Too movement does that, the trans-mafia does does an attack on, like you said, the traditional family, but it also is about capturing.
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It's about capturing children, in some cases, mentally ill adults, and it spreads like a peer contagion.
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Right.
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I think you would agree.
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Who's the godfather, you know, in this analogy? And you know, who are the, the button men carrying out the whacks?
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, I...
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The trans mafia, their, their, the leader is the bearded lady.
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It's a metaphor for a lot of them.
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It appears that they are really...
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There's fear.

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When you're doubling down on things that no objective individual could ever say, "Hey, there's a rational reason for this," well, what, what's the end game? What do you make of it all?
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And I think your book, among other things, gets at why Democrats, though, cannot give it up, particularly now.
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100%.
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That is exactly right.
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It was the main silver bullet of sanity.
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They doubled down on it in 2024.
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In fact, I just got off with Don Jr.
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He and I just spent an hour talking about exactly that.

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But is there this is the type of stuff that's kind of dangerous.

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