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Spike Lee

Spike Lee

American filmmaker and actor

Nov 2, 2026

3:21
and then going to NYU to film school, how did those things set you on a certain path?
3:31
Well, I don't remember anything about Atlanta as a kid.
3:37
Yeah.
3:37
I was born in Atlanta and then we moved to Chicago because my father was a jazz player, bassist, and then we moved to New York.
3:50
So the first place we moved to Brooklyn was Crown Heights.
3:55
And in 1963, we moved to Cobble Hill, Brooklyn.
4:01
And Cobble Hill at that time was 100% Italian-American neighborhood.

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46:54
Speaking of stories, what story have you not told that you want to tell, that you have wanted to tell for a while?
17:31
You had? Yes.
17:34
May.
17:34
I forgot the date.
17:36
May? I think 18th or May 7th.
17:40
Game seven.
17:41
That was at the Willis-Reed game.
17:42
Oh, okay.

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My question is, when you're doing like, a real live person's life, do you feel like that put added pressure, especially somebody of that magnitude?
2:10
Was it worth the
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wait? Yes.
2:14
We're going back.
2:15
First of all, we're going back to back.
2:18
Spike wants another.
2:18
We're going back to back.
2:21
I mean, after 53 years, you know, you got to make up for some of those times.
3:29
I know you were in the arena, so you didn't hear this, but on the broadcast, Mike Breen gave everybody permission to cry, but what were the few moments like for you immediately once they won? To tell the truth, my mind
43:03
What does work week mean to you from your school?
Lee
LeeGUEST
43:07
Work week? It's hard to encapsulate it into one word.
Lee
LeeGUEST
43:13
It's just intense.
Lee
LeeGUEST
43:15
Okay.
Lee
LeeGUEST
43:15
And kind of to your point, for no reason.
Lee
LeeGUEST
43:17
Yeah.
Lee
LeeGUEST
43:18
Like, it's a really big...

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53:46
It does impact their college experience completely, so you don't want
42:25
And are you guys allowed to go out to dinner or leave the house?
Lee
LeeGUEST
42:27
You're allowed to, but you, what's interesting is you have to wear a pin.
Lee
LeeGUEST
42:31
So every sorority, like you have this big pin that you have to have on your shirt.
Lee
LeeGUEST
42:36
So you'll see the girls who are PNMs at the gym, and you're wearing this pin so they know they can't talk to you.
Lee
LeeGUEST
42:45
Or you'll see PNMs-
44:29
So would you say workweek is valuable?
Lee
LeeGUEST
44:36
Um, in some regards, yes, because I mean, you would be amazed at the way that college girls can pull together an event like this and have it so organized.
Lee
LeeGUEST
44:45
Like, it honestly is very, very impressive what gets pulled off in workweek.
MattHOST
60:00
Oh, Lee, what about you, buddy? What have you been watching?
Lee
LeeGUEST
60:05
I finally got to watch something off my watch list, and it's been on for quite a while, but I couldn't find a good copy of it.
Lee
LeeGUEST
60:12
I found a watchable copy of it.
Lee
LeeGUEST
60:14
Someone finally uploaded it to YouTube.
Lee
LeeGUEST
60:16
High Velocity from 1976.
Lee
LeeGUEST
60:18
Oh, yeah.
Lee
LeeGUEST
60:20
It's a kind of a little known mercenary film from that time starring Ben Gazzara and Paul Winfield.

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CDRHOST
254:44
I want more problems.
3:09
Right.
3:10
And Walt Frazier was his guy.
3:11
My father used to play at this club called West Blue Doc, and that's where Walt Frazier would always go.
3:19
It's over on the West Side, the jazz club, and that's where W- Walt would always go there and at the game.
3:26
So my first autograph was a, a tab [laughs] from the bar that, that Willis, excuse me, that, that Walt signed for me.
3:35
So I go way back, you know, Coach Red Holzman, Senator Bradley, Dave DeBusschere, Dick Barnett, Walt Frazier.
3:44
You know, you had Cassie Russell, Stallworth.
5:00
[laughs]
Omar Jimenez
Omar JimenezCORRESPONDENT
49:57
I just wonder, you are the, the Knicks fan ambassador, I think is fair to say.
50:01
I can't speak for all disciples, but I just find it strange that this had to happen now.
50:16
Gotta get there two hours early.
50:18
I mean, it's just like it's taking the focus off we haven't won since 1973.
50:33
It should be about the game tonight.
Omar Jimenez
Omar JimenezCORRESPONDENT
52:58
What would a championship mean to you personally?
53:02
Yeah, I can't even describe that.
53:07
You know? I've been thinking about this.
speaker_5SOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
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That's the quote.
6:10
A very good friend, her name is Vietta Johnson, and this day changed my life.
6:15
I said, let me go see what Vieta's doing.
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She lived, of course, on the other side of Washington Park, Fort Greene, Brooklyn.
6:22
So I rang the bell.
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She said, come on up.
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And she was studying for some tests.

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speaker_12SOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
19:37
You know, just people were digging in the ashes, you know, among the rubble trying to find their loved ones.
23:46
Down the block.
23:47
[laughs] But, uh, it's not the first time this country's been through stuff, uh, has found a better way to, uh, to live.
24:04
And gotta work at it, you know? We gotta work.
24:09
Gotta do the work.
24:10
And, and let's realize, Black folks, we got a lot of our stuff through the voting.

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39:13
Why so much criticism?
39:17
Because first of all, if you're a, a, a movie, a critic, and you're complaining about the stuff that, you know, all this other stuff, but the movie ends in '88.
39:35
And it's stuff, you're talking about accusations happened, so you're critiquing the film on something that you don't- you wanted, but it doesn't work in the timeline of the film.
10:14
How did that go down? How long was she sick?
10:17
Well, again, she was teaching St. Ann's, Brooklyn Heights, even today, still a great school, where my siblings went while she was teaching.
10:28
And, uh, wasn't feeling well and got checked out, and then they checked her into Brooklyn Hospital, which is in Fort Greene, where we grew up.
10:36
So my father told me to come home.
10:38
"Yeah, you know, it looks like we're gonna lose your, your mother." So I came home, and for two weeks, this is the middle of school.
10:44
And then my father said, "You know, you should go back to school." So I went back to school, went back to Atlanta, called the house.
10:51
When I landed, called the house to see how my mother's doing, and my Aunt Nancy picked up the phone.
11:29
Yeah.
Pamela Kirkland
Pamela KirklandCORRESPONDENT
12:11
How do you have those discussions at the same time? Very carefully.
12:19
But all jokes aside, I consider myself a storyteller.
12:26
So, not all my films, but some films about what's happening today, and that's what the story's about.
12:36
And it pains me that some of the stuff we were talking about school days was still going through.
12:43
I mean, I let the audience rather figure that out, and what they say is what we could do to stop that stuff, but I've been very fortunate to make films, and I'm honored to come back to Atlanta and show this film 38 years later where we shot it.
Pamela Kirkland
Pamela KirklandCORRESPONDENT
16:19
And that film had real impact, because you got a phone call about that one.
16:25
So we wanted to be eligible for the Oscars documentary category.
16:32
And to be considered, you have to have a one-week theatrical run.
39:52
Let
39:52
me tell it.
39:57
You know what? No, yes.
40:03
My mother was a cinephile.
40:07
But my father hated movies, hated Hollywood films.
40:12
So I'm the eldest of five, and so I was my mother's movie date.
40:19
And my father was a sports fanatic, so he would take me to games.

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48:20
well there was a game no I'm saying on the parade both happening on the subway as this is going down you've said you referenced earlier French Connection as an inspiration talk about that and also some of your other favorite set pieces from the course of your movies
22:01
... and I always feel like...
22:03
But AS- he stood right there, and they were going toe to toe, so the, the, the genius of, of Denzel lifted that whole scene, which lifted the movie because this is, this is at the end of the film too.
22:13
Like it's a high noon showdown.

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28:11
Yeah.
28:13
As I got older, I saw, you know, before I was like I had, you know, I had a certain feeling.
28:21
But as I got older, I understood, you know, he had scruples and morals and he was not gonna play electric bass.
25:05
What was it in particular about this story, re-imagining this story, that you felt like was so important to tell right now?
25:12
Well, I'm glad they used the word re-imagining.
25:15
I say reinterpretation 'cause I'm running away from the word remake.
25:21
But Kurosawa's film, the great Akira Kurosawa, who made this film postwar Japan in 1963, is from a book by a writer, Ed McBain.
25:34
And the strength of this film, the strength of the book and Kurosawa's film, it really deals with morality.
25:40
And when you have an actor, and in the, in the Japanese version, Toshiro Mifune, one of the great, great actors, and then with Denzel, who's right there, great actors.
25:51
When they're going through trials and tribulations, the audience becomes engaged, and they're with that person every step of the way.
27:52
Is there a story behind you choosing-
0:58
Denzel Washington of course, you two together, how could it not be? Can you just give us a little insight real quick about the inspiration behind the movie?
1:08
Well, the original film was by the great Japanese filmmaker, Akira Kurosawa.
1:12
And it came out in, uh, post-war Japan, 1963.
1:16
So we had to, like, flip it a little bit because I did not want to do a remake.
1:21
And this is my fifth film with Denzel Washington.
1:23
In order, Mo' Better Blues, Malcolm X, He Got Game, Inside Man.
1:31
And both Denzel and I did not know Inside Man w- was 19 years ago.
1:37
That's my favorite.
51:20
Yeah.
51:21
But as, myself as an artist, I'm not just gonna close my eyes and not acknowledge, you know, how this hateful stuff has gone on and- and definitely affected the world.
51:38
So that was- that was really the, you know, how we flipped it.

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57:15
Hmm.
57:15
...
57:15
these grotesque pictures be put in the film.
57:19
And I put them in.
57:24
I, I, I just felt that the world needed to see what these ticks of bi- what these ticks of dynamite did to these beautiful young girls who could have grown up to be doctors, lawyers-
15:22
Hmm.
15:23
This is just... no, no BS.
15:25
This is gen-...
15:25
this is Denzel's genius.
15:30
It made that scene...
15:31
it made the movie better.
15:35
If we had done what had been scripted and, and Jesus beats his father 11-zip, it, it would not have been the same.

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21:38
Mm-hmm.
20:55
Right.
20:55
...
20:55
in the fall.
20:58
And that summer, all, all we would do was play sports, you know, stickball, stoop ball, stuff like that.
21:03
And this day changed my life.
21:05
It is no BS.
21:07
I went to see Vietta, and she was...

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speaker_2UNKNOWN
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(laughs)
7:20
I gotta say, he was great.
7:21
He has talent.
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I mean, he's just not, he's not faking the funk.
7:25
He's a legit actor.
7:27
And, you know, we just got back from LA for the screenings over there, premieres.
7:31
And I, I, uh, somewhere, I just, party or something, and I grabbed him, I gave him a hug.
7:39
And I said, "Look, man.

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16:19
It's not going to happen?
25:58
So tell me what this is- what this movie's about, Spike.
26:01
Well, this is the fifth time, the fifth time that great Denzel Washington have worked together.
26:05
In order, Mobile Booze, Malcolm X, He Got Game, Inside Man.
26:10
And both Denzel and I- and I, my brother Nott know, the last time we worked together was 19 years.
26:16
So this is a- a gift.
26:18
Denzel, the script was going around town, I mean LA for a while, and he got the script, and he called me up and says, "Spike, I'm sending you something, and you'll get it today's- tomorrow." And before I hung up the phone, I knew I wanted to do the film.
26:34
So this is a- not a remake, re- a reincarnation of a Japanese film, a great Japanese filmmaker, Akira Kurosawa.
27:56
Right.
13:06
You've always had a passion?
13:08
...
13:08
Film? Oh, hm, that's...
13:10
Look, I can't talk for anybody else, but for me, I've never had fell out- fell out of love with, with cinema because, uh...
13:19
Like, I tell this to my students.
13:21
I'm a tenured professor of film at NYU Graduate Film School.
13:24
Ernest Dickerson, great cameraman, shot all my sh- shot all my films up till Malcolm X. Ang Lee was my classmate.

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27:56
Hmm.
9:54
How much do you discuss scenes ahead of time, and how much do you leave it to chance and improvisation?
10:00
I mean, what we do is that we have a reading.
10:03
But before that, we're auditioning.
10:06
And so a lot of times we audition actors, you know, we see there's something, you know, we don't have to fix this part in the script.
10:14
Because up to that point, we haven't heard the lines read.
10:20
There's a hundred percent, I gotta tell young filmmakers, reading the script is not the same as hearing the words that are written.
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It is day and night.

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was cold.
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Right.
124:44
They weren't in the building when we were there, you know.
124:46
So when, when Jarmusch...
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I, I always give my love to Jim Jarmusch because he made it possible, that independence film is the way to go.
124:57
So everything Jim did with, with Stranger Paradise, I did with She's Gotta Have It.
125:00
I followed the festival thing like that.
125:04
So I'm a, I'm a teacher, I've been teaching here 30 years every Thursday.
125:26
Yeah.
31:41
Mm.
31:42
When I went to...
31:43
And when you graduate film school, that's when I got into world cinema.
31:48
And right away, I saw Kurosawa as a guy, and it's not a remake.
31:55
I keep trying to tell people this.
31:56
It's a re-...
31:58
Re-, reimagine it.
34:16
(laughs)

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