He's jersey number 18.

Yeah, Jack Welsby's had a couple of rough years at St Helens.

Um, won a number of trophies there, you know, of ...

They went on that run where they were, you know, dominant, uh, in the Super League.

It's been a bit rough for St Helens.

That's why Kevvy's been, um, picked up to go over there and sort of change what's been happening for St Helens.

Um, because, uh, during that period, it's been teams like Wigan and, and even a, a couple of, uh, the, the lesser squads fr- from years past, like Hull KR winning it two years ago, Wakefield winning the Super League.

Former Dragon.

Hey.

Yeah, yeah, he was good.

I, I, I managed to go down and have a, a, a quick beer with him in the sheds, uh, after as well and, uh, he, he was just...

You know, there was a, a th- a thousand things going at him.

Um, I, I had a, I had a chance to watch the game back, uh, this arvo as well, and I thought he was excellent, mate.

Like sometimes when you're calling the games you don't really get to, uh, look at, um...

You know, like I think you, you're more focused on sort of try scoring like Mikey Mark and, and meters like Teddy and, and, and those guys are right up there with- in the Clive, um, conversation and, and Teddy winning it.

And he certainly, uh, didn't let anyone down.

How was he, mate? Like off, off air.

Yeah.

Yeah, he was good.

I, I, I managed to go down and have a, a, a quick beer with him in the sheds, uh, after as well, and, uh, he, he was just...

You know, there was a m- a, a thousand things going at him.

Um, I, I had a, I had a chance to watch the game back, uh, this arvo as well, and I thought he was excellent, mate.

Like, sometimes when you're calling the games, you don't really get to, uh, look at, um...

And he certainly, uh, didn't let anyone down.

How was he, mate, like off, off air?

Yeah.

Yeah, he was good.

I, I, I managed to go down and have a c- a quick beer with him in the sheds, uh, after as well, and, uh, he, he was just...

You know, there was a m- a, a thousand things going at him.

Um, I, I had a, I had a chance to watch the game back, uh, this arvo as well, and I thought he was excellent, mate.

Like, sometimes when you're calling the games, you don't really get to, uh, look at, um, you know...

And he certainly, uh, didn't let anyone down.

... how was he, mate? Like off, off air.

air.Yeah. Yeah, he was good.

I, I, I managed to go down and have a, a, a quick beer with him in the sheds, uh, after as well, and, uh, uh, he, he was just, you know, there was a m- a, a thousand things going at him.

Um, I, I had a, I had a chance to watch the game back, uh, this arvo as well, and I thought he was excellent, mate.

Like, sometimes when you're calling the games, you don't really get to, uh, look at, um, you know...

Like, I think you've- you're more focused on sort of try scoring, like Marky Mark and, and meters like Teddy and, and, and those guys were right up there with, in the Clive, um, conversation and, and Teddy winning it.

But geez, when watching it back and, and how well he kicked and, you know, jeez, he peppered poor old Greg Bird, didn't he? Like, he just made it difficult for him, uh, the entire second half and, um, through that, um, Martin Wangane and Nick Trbojevic also had, um, a, a bit of a day out in the second half.

So, and he certainly, uh, didn't let anyone down.

Have you taken a minute to sit back and reflect on the year yet or still in the grind?

Yeah, not yet.

I reckon I'm excited because we're going to be doing stuff for the Rugby League World Cup at the end of the year, aren't we, Chad, with the SEN stuff.

Mate, what an incredible game that we called Newcastle versus Penrith.

Can't wait for the grand final.

One of my great mates is going to be playing his last game in the NRL.

He would have been at the golf day because he's been at the golf day the last couple of years, but I'm pumped that he's not because he's going to be there on Sunday with Chez.

Absolutely My last one for you is grand final this weekend roosters versus Knights Have you got a tip for us who you're locking in the big dance?

Hey, Justin, anything make you nervous into the finals about the

Warriors' chances? No, not at all.

I don't take anything from the last couple of rounds.

I think people can overreact and look at the form of the finals, but Mason knows he's better than anyone.

It's a brand new competition.

It's about being healthy.

Warriors are starting.

I'm imagining, you know, it's Waz all around, but any sort of predictions you'd like to offer on the game?

Oh.

Oh, just too far.

I said, um, "I just really need to get, like, at least the, the eight teams that have been, uh, officially knocked out" Are you still keen to come? Because, you know, I plant the seed.

By the way, for people that don't know, I reach out to players at the start of the year.

Yes.

I plant the seed at the start of the year, "Hey, boys, do you have any interest in coming back to the golf day this year? Here we go, Karapani." It's hard, Tom.

"Bullet scam over." [laughs] I go, um, I go, "Boys, do you have interest in the golf day? If so-" Mm-hmm.

I do like, though, with this, with your golf day, I think that it's something that will fast become a feature of grand final week, which I think is cool, and I think that's something that-

Can we start with the Tigers situation around Adam Doueihi, Benji Marshall and everything that's unfolded there? What do you make of what's kinda come to light in the last 24 hours? Thanks for joining us.

Yeah, no worries, guys.

Thanks for having me.

I, I thought you might wanna start, start with the Tigers and, and what's happening with Adam Doueihi, um, and Benji.

Uh, geez, you, you gotta feel for Benji.

He's, he's been through it over the last couple of years.

Uh, if he, if he manages to get through, you know, this latest, uh, installment of, uh, of drama that he's had at the Tigers, geez, it's gonna set him up well long term at the Tigers and, you know, they can finally start to, uh, entrench themselves back in the eight and, uh, you know, and continue to be in the fight like they were during his time because he's had a rough trot of it, and this is another example.

How do you see this one playing out?

[laughs]

... at the Tigers and f- you know, they can finally start to, uh, entrench themselves back in the eight and, uh, you know, and continue to be in the fight like they were during his time because he's had a rough trot of it, and this is another example.

Um, like most, uh, you know, former players, I've nev- I'd never heard of this before, uh, in my career.

Uh, I've seen a lot of commentary on it, uh, over the last twenty-four hours.

Uh, even doing the show yesterday on SEN with, uh, with Brian Fletcher, and we, we had Matty Johns who, who, you know, he's a guest for us.

Uh, you know, we were, we were all flabbergasted with, with what's happening.

So, um, yeah, it's a, it's a, it's definitely a, a, a Tigers sorta situation and hopefully it can be r- be resolved really quickly and, you know, I'd love to see Adam Dewey, uh, be able to mend his relationship with Benji and get back on the field as, as early as next week.

So do you just see it one-way traffic for the Green Machine, or you think Benji can somehow get the Tigers to do something in this?

I don't know him personally, but what he does, fucking unreal.

We were lucky enough when I was at Catalans, actually, my...

One of my coaches was Steve McNamara, and he was the, um, at one point he would've been Jams' coach for the, uh, national team over there, and he got Kevin Sinfield to come in and, and have a chat to us before the game.

And this is, this is before all, like, uh, Rob Burrow was diagnosed.

Like, I think he'd just finished playing.

One of the best, one of the best talks that I've, like, I've ever heard.

Like, he's so good.

He's been around for a minute, hasn't he?

H- how have you found his game this year?

Yeah, awesome.

I think, um, one thing everyone knows a- and loves about Dylan is he doesn't have an ego, which is, which is even, you know ...

He's such an easy guy to work with.

And when he come up here, as you said, there was a lot of hype around it.

I think what helped was how well he played for the Kiwis in the Pacific Test.

Obviously, he's, I think he got Man of the Match in every game.

Is it a thing?

How have you found his game this year?

Yeah, awesome.

I think, um, one thing everyone knows a- and loves about Dylan is he doesn't have an ego, which is, which is even, you know...

He's such an easy guy to work with.

And when he come up here, as you said, there was a lot of hype around it.

I think what helped was how well he played for the Kiwis in the Pacific Test.

Obviously, he's, I think he got man of the match in every game.

It's a thing.

So slight favorites even with Mitchell Moses being ruled out a couple of days ago with that hamstring?

Yeah, I think they'll, they'll still go into the game, uh, favorites.

Mitch is gonna be a big loss.

Um, every time he's played Origin in the last couple of years New South Wales have won.

Uh, he's been the lucky charm for the Blues.

But, uh, Ethan Strange gets an opportunity, a good young 5'8 from Canberra.

Uh, and, and, and to be honest, I, I, I think he'll probably even complement, um, Nathan Cleary, um, just as well, 'cause he's a good, uh, big young lad, a good ball runner, and, uh, should just really simplify his game.

Do, do you agree with that?

Mm.

I start...

Like, we were playing Newcastle one day at the football stage, and we were getting beat 14-12, and I was at lock.

And I said to Freddy, uh, you know, 'cause I think who...

It might've been Matty Five-Eights or whoever it was.

And I said, "Freddy, time to go home.

I'm sick of this.

[laughs]

Yes, sticks out.

Um, so yeah, that was the big thing.

When I went over there, and, uh, to be fair, I was even, like, they were excited, uh, but I'd heard so many stories from ex, uh, Prime Minister's XIII players that, about them swarming the bus and, you know, grabbing your kit and, and shirts and all that stuff.

And I actually did, while, whilst I was over there, gave them some of the, uh, some kit that we had, you know, that we had on hand.

But everyone was pretty cruisy.

Like, it was, you know, don't get me wrong, um, you will have to be, um, I guess so, more so, um, going into town and, and exploring things outside of the, the compound-

Yeah.

It felt a little bit like that.

Mm

... he's got a lot of influence.

Um, I remember just sitting back and just ...

You know, when I ...

At the back end of the day, once I've done the presentation at that golf day, sometimes I just sit back at the back of the room.

I'm sitting with ...

I remember it specifically this time.

Yeah.

What, what's the Scope bet and why are you so hot about it?

All right.

The reason I love it for Melbourne is because the systems that Melbourne have, I actually trained in that for Parramatta.

So we watched video on them, and it was a, a big Bellamy thing.

And the, the, the main, the main part that I, you know, from, from my time defending in that system is, uh, inside shoulder, uh, you can't take, get done on your inside shoulder.

That's a non-negotiable.

So what that means is, uh, you have a nice compressed line, and it matters even more early on in the year, where if you are gonna get beaten-

Yep