Sep 22, 2026 · 51 min · 12 segments
John Howard Steel shares his memories of working with Joe Pilates in the original Pilates studio. Steel is the author of Caged Lion, his memoir, which untangles Joe…
John Howard SteelGuest
Tracy BelcherHost
If you were to meet somebody, like, at a restaurant or if somebody came to your house and they saw your reformer and like, "Whoa, what is this torture device?" Like, what would you tell them? [laughs]

Well, it's a very, uh, a very structured system of movement and exercise that requires you to concentrate fully on doing it and, uh, it's a very non-competitive, uh, non, uh, goal-oriented, uh, system.

It's, it's, uh, uh, it's very, very hard to really define what the essence of it is, I think.

Uh, but what it really does, and that's what you can talk about, it takes you away from everything in your life but doing it and in that sense it's, uh, it's almost like a sport.

It's not like a tennis lesson when someone's saying, "Oh, do this with your stroke," or, "Do this." Uh, and it leaves you with a feeling that, A, you want more of it.

It works on so many different systems in your body, your muscles, your hormones, your mind, your emotions.

If you were to meet somebody, like, at a restaurant or if somebody came to your house and they saw your reformer and like, "Whoa, what is this torture device?" Like, what would you tell them? [laughs]

Well, it's a very, uh, a very structured system of movement and exercise that requires you to concentrate fully on doing it and, uh, it's a very non-competitive, uh, non, uh, goal-oriented, uh, system.

It's, it's, uh, uh, it's very, very hard to really define what the essence of it is, I think.

Uh, but what it really does, and that's what you can talk about, it takes you away from everything in your life but doing it and in that sense it's, uh, it's almost like a sport.

It's not like a tennis lesson when someone's saying, "Oh, do this with your stroke," or, "Do this." Uh, and it leaves you with a feeling that, A, you want more of it.

It works on so many different systems in your body, your muscles, your hormones, your mind, your emotions.
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