Kieran CameronGuest
Chantal BakerHost
Matthew BakerHost
And I turn over the page and you've got a massive advert from Intuit, MailChimp, which is obviously a massive company.

That must be an achievement, getting a big company to believe in your product.

Yeah, I mean, my very first job when I straight out of school, I was about 17 or 18.

I worked for Trinity Mirrors, who own the Scotsman and the Daily Mirror and the Metro and all sorts of newspapers.

I was desperate to be a journalist, but I got stuck in the advertising department.


And I turn over the page and you've got a massive advert from Intuit, MailChimp, which is obviously a massive company.

That must be an achievement, getting a big company to believe in your product.

Yeah, I mean, my very first job when I straight out of school, I was about 17 or 18.

I worked for Trinity Mirrors, who own the Scotsman and the Daily Mirror and the Metro and all sorts of newspapers.

I was desperate to be a journalist, but I got stuck in the advertising department.

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