WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk
Sep 14, 2026 · 40 min · 11 segments
What happened to Sam to get sent home from Italy? When did Sam's war end? How did Sam feel when he went home and saw his family? Join Jim and Al for part 4 of a new series focussing on one man's war…
Al MurrayHost
James HollandHost
We're, we're throwing forward a little bit, and we'll, we'll come back to his homecoming and what he does about it, but Jesus, that's devastating, isn't it?
Just hearing you read that out again, it's, it's all sort of coming back to me, that conversation I had with him, and I'm, and, and it's one of the things I, I was so determined to make sure that we got that voice in this series, because I, you know, I've, I interviewed him 25 years ago, but I remember that so well.
About his mum going gray and not belonging, and no one to talk to, and no one preparing him for it.
Well, it is, isn't it? And the thing is, is because, um, for the patrons, I've just been doing my grandfather's letters home from France in Northwest Europe, and I think about my grandmother receiving these letters, and then he d- and then he, he, you know, he didn't come back.
You know, it's not just the guys going off in khaki, the, in the slate gray or the r- navy blue, is it? It's the people at home having to carry it and bear it, who are, who are facing loss.
And that his sister dies is awful, isn't it? I mean, as, as a thing to f- a thing to come home to, absolutely devastating.
It's this, this idea that you're coming back from a dream and you're coming back to reality, but the reality is so disappointing.
Anyway, we'll t- w- we should start not by, by the sort of chronological details of what, what he-
We're, we're throwing forward a little bit, and we'll, we'll come back to his homecoming and what he does about it, but Jesus, that's devastating, isn't it?
Just hearing you read that out again, it's, it's all sort of coming back to me, that conversation I had with him, and I'm, and, and it's one of the things I, I was so determined to make sure that we got that voice in this series, because I, you know, I've, I interviewed him 25 years ago, but I remember that so well.
About his mum going gray and not belonging, and no one to talk to, and no one preparing him for it.
Well, it is, isn't it? And the thing is, is because, um, for the patrons, I've just been doing my grandfather's letters home from France in Northwest Europe, and I think about my grandmother receiving these letters, and then he d- and then he, he, you know, he didn't come back.
You know, it's not just the guys going off in khaki, the, in the slate gray or the r- navy blue, is it? It's the people at home having to carry it and bear it, who are, who are facing loss.
And that his sister dies is awful, isn't it? I mean, as, as a thing to f- a thing to come home to, absolutely devastating.
It's this, this idea that you're coming back from a dream and you're coming back to reality, but the reality is so disappointing.
Anyway, we'll t- w- we should start not by, by the sort of chronological details of what, what he-
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