Worship Online Podcast (For Worship Leaders)
Sep 3, 2026 · 35 min · 11 segments
She got to her sister's apartment right behind the paramedics. She **prayed with more faith** than she had ever felt in her life, and **the miracle didn't come**. **Bethany Wohrle kept leading…
Bethany WohrleGuestKeith ElginHostYeah.
That's such a tension.
And then also at the same time, now we're disappointed.
So then how do we like, how do we reconcile these things? You know, and, and, you know, you mentioned being at Bethel and seeing miracles happen.
Not a lot of, not, not everybody has that type of church environment, that type of belief or faith.
What do you tell a worship leader or even just somebody who follows Jesus that's like, I don't really know if miracles and yeah, I pray for my sick grandma.
I mean, that's significant, by the way.
Yeah, 100%.
You know what I'm saying? But like somebody's like broken bones being fused back together in a moment or sight being restored.
Yeah.
You carry that right into your situations.

You know, I feel like that's a an interesting and challenging question for me to respond to, because I have been I've been in those situations like I've I've questioned certain things.

But I think that it's one of those things where it's it's almost like you have to.

I remember Josh Baldwin used this analogy as like a worship leading like quote tactic.

And I honestly have taken it and have grabbed a hold of it for many different areas in my life, whether it's like parenting my children or if it's pastoring someone, if it's, you know, this type of situation where it's like, I don't know if I really believe, you know, does the Lord do that? Like I've heard stories like, you know, I read it in the Bible, but like I've never experienced it myself.

So he basically is like, do you remember, you know, back in the early 2000s, we didn't have like GPS.

And if you had people behind you following going to the same place, but you were the only one that had the directions, you have to slow down at yellow lights.
Yeah.
That's such a tension.
And then also at the same time, now we're disappointed.
So then how do we like, how do we reconcile these things? You know, and, and, you know, you mentioned being at Bethel and seeing miracles happen.
Not a lot of, not, not everybody has that type of church environment, that type of belief or faith.
What do you tell a worship leader or even just somebody who follows Jesus that's like, I don't really know if miracles and yeah, I pray for my sick grandma.
I mean, that's significant, by the way.
Yeah, 100%.
You know what I'm saying? But like somebody's like broken bones being fused back together in a moment or sight being restored.
Yeah.
You carry that right into your situations.

You know, I feel like that's a an interesting and challenging question for me to respond to, because I have been I've been in those situations like I've I've questioned certain things.

But I think that it's one of those things where it's it's almost like you have to.

I remember Josh Baldwin used this analogy as like a worship leading like quote tactic.

And I honestly have taken it and have grabbed a hold of it for many different areas in my life, whether it's like parenting my children or if it's pastoring someone, if it's, you know, this type of situation where it's like, I don't know if I really believe, you know, does the Lord do that? Like I've heard stories like, you know, I read it in the Bible, but like I've never experienced it myself.

So he basically is like, do you remember, you know, back in the early 2000s, we didn't have like GPS.

And if you had people behind you following going to the same place, but you were the only one that had the directions, you have to slow down at yellow lights.
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