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Wheels Off with Rhett Miller

Wheels Off with Rhett Miller

Singer-songwriter Caleb Caudle on his new album and building his own label

Sep 1, 2026 · 25 min · 13 segments

North Carolina singer-songwriter Caleb Caudle joins Rhett ahead of a run of Texas and Louisiana dates with Old 97's. Caleb talks about his new album, *Heavy Thrill*, and his brand-new label, Handplow…

North Carolina singer-songwriter Caleb Caudle joins Rhett ahead of a run of Texas and Louisiana dates with Old 97's. Caleb talks about his new album, *Heavy Thrill*, and his brand-new label, Handplow Records; recording at Johnny Cash's Cash Cabin studio; and how a punk-rock kid ended up writing alt-country. He and Rhett also get into burning out on the road, and Caleb shares what 13 years of sobriety have taught him. His new album *Heavy Thrill* (Handplow Records) is available now. Follow Caleb @calebcaudle Follow Rhett @rhettmiller *Wheels Off* is hosted and produced by Rhett Miller. Executive producer is Kirsten Cluthe, Studio Kairos. Music by Old 97's. Episode artwork by Mark Dowd. Show logo by Tim Skirven. Watch the podcast on YouTube and Spotify, and listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can also ask Alexa to play it. Revisit previous episodes of *Wheels Off* with guests Rosanne Cash, Rob Thomas, Jeff Tweedy, Lucinda Williams, Stewart Copeland, Jennifer Egan, Nick Hornby, and more. New episodes drop bi-weekly. Subscribe wherever you listen. If you like what you hear, please leave us a rating or review. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

North Carolina singer-songwriter Caleb Caudle joins Rhett ahead of a run of Texas and Louisiana dates with Old 97's. Caleb talks about his new album, *Heavy Thrill*, and his brand-new label, Handplow…

Speakers: Caleb CaudleGuestRhett MillerHost

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Top entities: Caleb Caudle×29 North Carolina×7 Texas×5 Heavy Thrill×2 Rhett Miller×5

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The New Record and Cash Cabin3:36 – 5:05

Rhett MillerHost

3:36

And congrats on the new record.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:38

Thank you.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:38

Thank you.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:39

Yeah, I'm very excited about it.

Rhett MillerHost

3:40

How does it feel, having it finally getting ready to come out in the world?

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:45

Yeah.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:46

So I got my like vinyl shipment in maybe a week ago.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:50

And that was when it was like, oh, this is this is for real.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:54

And this one's a lot different for me.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:56

It's the first time I produced a record.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:57

And so and also I started my own label this time around.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:01

So it's it's like way more.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:03

I just there's so much in it, you know, even more so than before.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:07

So I've just yeah, I'm excited about it.

Rhett MillerHost

4:10

Well, it's great and it seems like it's going great as far as rollout goes.

Rhett MillerHost

4:13

How was it working in Cash Cabin?

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:16

Amazing.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:17

I've worked out there maybe three or four times now and I've done some video stuff out there.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:21

Uh, I started working there.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:24

I had this, uh, I have this friend, John Jackson, and he played in the Jayhawks for a while, but he had produced some records on, um, Ray Davies and a couple other people.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:34

And, um, He was working out there.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:36

I think maybe I'm on some like Loretta Lynn stuff.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:39

And I think that was how I initially went out there.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:42

But I get along with John Carter Gray.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:45

We've written some songs now.

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The New Record and Cash Cabin3:36 – 5:05

Rhett MillerHost

3:36

And congrats on the new record.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:38

Thank you.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:38

Thank you.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:39

Yeah, I'm very excited about it.

Rhett MillerHost

3:40

How does it feel, having it finally getting ready to come out in the world?

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:45

Yeah.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:46

So I got my like vinyl shipment in maybe a week ago.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:50

And that was when it was like, oh, this is this is for real.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:54

And this one's a lot different for me.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:56

It's the first time I produced a record.

Caleb CaudleGuest

3:57

And so and also I started my own label this time around.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:01

So it's it's like way more.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:03

I just there's so much in it, you know, even more so than before.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:07

So I've just yeah, I'm excited about it.

Rhett MillerHost

4:10

Well, it's great and it seems like it's going great as far as rollout goes.

Rhett MillerHost

4:13

How was it working in Cash Cabin?

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:16

Amazing.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:17

I've worked out there maybe three or four times now and I've done some video stuff out there.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:21

Uh, I started working there.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:24

I had this, uh, I have this friend, John Jackson, and he played in the Jayhawks for a while, but he had produced some records on, um, Ray Davies and a couple other people.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:34

And, um, He was working out there.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:36

I think maybe I'm on some like Loretta Lynn stuff.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:39

And I think that was how I initially went out there.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:42

But I get along with John Carter Gray.

Caleb CaudleGuest

4:45

We've written some songs now.

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