Sep 1, 2026 · 1 hr 9 min · 17 segments
**The second book is coming — a perfect reason to revisit my conversation with Jes Kerzen.** Jes is a retired teacher and advocate for neurodivergent students. Her story began when Asher, an autistic…
Wendy GarrettHost
See, that's, I think, something that's very important because it gave them insight into what might be a difference that they hadn't even thought about before.
Instead of a punishment where, don't do that, you're bad, blah, blah, blah, it's like, hey, consider this.
In the past, it had always just been you know if children did something wrong they were punished and really helped in my opinion
i remember there's a long time ago i can't remember the last name of the guy is brown and that same kind of element what he was saying was you know you can tell somebody and he used a sports metaphor or sports illustration analogy the guy was kicking the ball and the coach can go out and say you're kicking it wrong stop doing that quit it this you know and everything he could do to to tell the guy how many ways he was doing it wrong what he could do that would be better was to go out and say, I need you to kick it to the left, point your toe here and give it a spin or something that said, this is how I want you to do it.
It's one of the things that the guys who are really good figure it out and go forward.
This is about Asher because there's a crucial time in his life when he lost his mom that you also had developed some abilities at that point.
And this is also, I think, extremely important when these abilities are brought to use.
And I would like you to share what, What happened when he lost his mom and then you made a unique connection, basically channeling.
See, that's, I think, something that's very important because it gave them insight into what might be a difference that they hadn't even thought about before.
Instead of a punishment where, don't do that, you're bad, blah, blah, blah, it's like, hey, consider this.
In the past, it had always just been you know if children did something wrong they were punished and really helped in my opinion
i remember there's a long time ago i can't remember the last name of the guy is brown and that same kind of element what he was saying was you know you can tell somebody and he used a sports metaphor or sports illustration analogy the guy was kicking the ball and the coach can go out and say you're kicking it wrong stop doing that quit it this you know and everything he could do to to tell the guy how many ways he was doing it wrong what he could do that would be better was to go out and say, I need you to kick it to the left, point your toe here and give it a spin or something that said, this is how I want you to do it.
It's one of the things that the guys who are really good figure it out and go forward.
This is about Asher because there's a crucial time in his life when he lost his mom that you also had developed some abilities at that point.
And this is also, I think, extremely important when these abilities are brought to use.
And I would like you to share what, What happened when he lost his mom and then you made a unique connection, basically channeling.
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