Wake-Up Call With Bill Lundun & Mandy Beemer
Oct 16, 2026 · 10 min · 8 segments
CEO Advance Operational Concepts
Mike O'RourkeGuestBill LundunHostUm, I guess it just goes to show that, you know, I mean, he shot his way, according to the police chief last night during a press conference, that he actually shot his way in.
Now, as we know at this point, he was carrying what they were referring to as a long gun.
It was actually a shotgun and that he actually shot his way through the door locks.

They haven't – as you stated, they haven't officially said it was a shotgun, but there are press reports that quote anonymous law enforcement sources saying they had a shotgun.

And I believe the terminology the chief used was that he forced his way in by shooting at locked doors.

Now, does that mean he actually shot the locks out, which is definitely possible with a shotgun, or did he shoot through glass surrounding the door?
Yeah, there was a video that was posted by the individual whose vehicle was shot at online.
It was a red pickup truck, and it was pretty obvious that the holes in that truck were not made by a rifle.
It actually looked like either lead slugs or maybe in one case on one side of the truck, it kind of looked like maybe buckshot.
I mean, when you're training people for active shooter training, I mean, what kind of things do you tell them that they need to do? And, you know, in case they do manage to get into the building, how do they deal with it?
Um, I guess it just goes to show that, you know, I mean, he shot his way, according to the police chief last night during a press conference, that he actually shot his way in.
Now, as we know at this point, he was carrying what they were referring to as a long gun.
It was actually a shotgun and that he actually shot his way through the door locks.

They haven't – as you stated, they haven't officially said it was a shotgun, but there are press reports that quote anonymous law enforcement sources saying they had a shotgun.

And I believe the terminology the chief used was that he forced his way in by shooting at locked doors.

Now, does that mean he actually shot the locks out, which is definitely possible with a shotgun, or did he shoot through glass surrounding the door?
Yeah, there was a video that was posted by the individual whose vehicle was shot at online.
It was a red pickup truck, and it was pretty obvious that the holes in that truck were not made by a rifle.
It actually looked like either lead slugs or maybe in one case on one side of the truck, it kind of looked like maybe buckshot.
I mean, when you're training people for active shooter training, I mean, what kind of things do you tell them that they need to do? And, you know, in case they do manage to get into the building, how do they deal with it?
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