Bringing Hope and Relief to Persecuted Christians

That story raises a, an interesting question.

As, as we do this work, we're putting other people at risk.

Yeah.

I mean, we, we understand this.

I feel uncomfortable 'cause sometimes people will say, "Oh, wow, you go to all these countries.

It must be so dangerous." It's like, yeah, there's, uh, some danger for me, but there is 27 times more danger for any Christian that is gonna come and talk to me and be seen with me and walk me around and how, how do you process that, that putting people in danger? And obviously out of this story, you're still processing that one years later.

Yeah, yeah.

And, and I just returned from Nigeria, and I've got trips coming up as well, and I'm very cognizant of that.

You know, I really make sure that the team's bought in on, on why I'm there, uh, where I'm going.

I let them control kind of where I'm gonna go because they kind of know.

They know more than you do? [laughs]

Yes, and, and I'm not demanding about I, I've got to see certain things.

Uh, the last trip in Nigeria, we were in, we had to drive through Fulani-held areas to get to the Christian villages that are now surrounded.

You know, you change how you travel, and I've had instances where I've been stopped and I've been with other Americans, and they don't seem to have that operational security mindset.

I think of one instance.

I had briefed the team, like, "These are things-

Right

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when the driver is driving us, don't say this.

Just assume he understands English.

You know, we don't need him understanding what we're doing.

We're businesspeople here," kind of thing.

One of the pastors decided to say the name of Jesus, and the guy figures it out.

And we think that because we're an American, we have some special status in this area, and he, his comment was, "Well, I'm an American.

I have rights." And I'm like, "You don't have any rights here."