The Poker Mindset Behind a $100M+ Business

But continuing on that topic, has that definition of what you call uncommon wealth changed as the company's grown, your responsibility's grown, and your family have grown?

Oh, man.

I mean, I probably think that the thing that I am, I guess, most proud of at this point, which I'm happy to dive into, is taking the, the idea with four founders to now what I believe to be I'm a fairly qualified CEO.

And you have founders on and you talk to them, and you, you hear stories and everything like that.

You'll hear private equity talk a lot of times about how they want founder-led companies, and they don't actually want founder-led companies.

So just FYI, if you're out there and you have a company, you're talking to private equity firms, like, what they want is the guy from McKinsey or the guy that's done it before, the safe path that's gonna take the company.

And I think that for the whole founding team, all four of us that started on day one, to still be in meaningful roles in the company, you know, almost 10 years later with three rounds of private equity, a strategic, a word I didn't even know be- when we started the company, a lender, right? We had no idea what we were doing.

I think that that's something that I'm the most proud of.

Um, on the personal side, oh, man, I don't know if I think about it so much on the personal side in terms of, of wealth like that.

But I think for the company to, you know, we're doing over $100 million in revenue and, and being able to create so many jobs and opportunities, and to be opening in Madrid and London, Saudi Arabia, like, those things are almost surreal to me.

And that's crazy to think that, you know...

And I looked at all the different locations you have in the United States.

You've got those international locations.

I mean, it's really...

This thing is growing, and it's continuing to grow and catch on.

You know, you've been a poker player, a lawyer, an options trader, and now founder and CEO.

What thread...

I mean, you can argue the thread between poker and options, but what thread connects those different chapters of your life together?

But continuing on that topic, has that definition of what you call uncommon wealth changed as the company's grown, your responsibility's grown, and your family have grown?

Oh, man.

I mean, I probably think that the thing that I am, I guess, most proud of at this point, which I'm happy to dive into, is taking the, the idea with four founders to now what I believe to be I'm a fairly qualified CEO.

And you have founders on and you talk to them, and you, you hear stories and everything like that.

You'll hear private equity talk a lot of times about how they want founder-led companies, and they don't actually want founder-led companies.

So just FYI, if you're out there and you have a company, you're talking to private equity firms, like, what they want is the guy from McKinsey or the guy that's done it before, the safe path that's gonna take the company.

And I think that for the whole founding team, all four of us that started on day one, to still be in meaningful roles in the company, you know, almost 10 years later with three rounds of private equity, a strategic, a word I didn't even know be- when we started the company, a lender, right? We had no idea what we were doing.

I think that that's something that I'm the most proud of.

Um, on the personal side, oh, man, I don't know if I think about it so much on the personal side in terms of, of wealth like that.

But I think for the company to, you know, we're doing over $100 million in revenue and, and being able to create so many jobs and opportunities, and to be opening in Madrid and London, Saudi Arabia, like, those things are almost surreal to me.

And that's crazy to think that, you know...

And I looked at all the different locations you have in the United States.

You've got those international locations.

I mean, it's really...

This thing is growing, and it's continuing to grow and catch on.

You know, you've been a poker player, a lawyer, an options trader, and now founder and CEO.

What thread...

I mean, you can argue the thread between poker and options, but what thread connects those different chapters of your life together?