Jun 2, 2026 · 28 min · 14 segments
Joint attention is the shared focus between a child and another person, and it is one of the most important foundational communication skills for children with autism and developmental delays. Dr…
Rose GriffinGuestMary BarberaHostcommunication.Yeah, before we get into specific examples about joint attention, I also wanted to point out that, you know, uh, kids with autism and toddlers showing signs, the key, the key symptoms or, of possible autism-
... um, responding to fun activities, the lack of pointing or not pointing enough, and pointing, you know, with your whole hand instead of your index finger.
Um, and so a lot of the activities that Rose promotes and I promote for decades-
... is to build the, that social reciprocity back up, and if a child can't point or doesn't point or doesn't point a lot, how to teach those kind of skills in a fun way that's functional and not just teaching to the test so they don't look like they have autism, but actually-
... working on those core skills that I, I think a lot of us miss, no matter what practice we're in.

There's a new test that came out that I just got in the mail called the MODEST that I was looking over, and it, it seems very promising.

But, um, we're just anecdotally looking at these things and including them from observation, and if you don't know, it's kind of like you don't know what you don't know.

You know, I know you have that video, I think of Lucas maybe at his birthday, when he's not looking and you guys are singing Happy Birthday, and it's like that's such a classic autism thing.
communication.Yeah, before we get into specific examples about joint attention, I also wanted to point out that, you know, uh, kids with autism and toddlers showing signs, the key, the key symptoms or, of possible autism-
... um, responding to fun activities, the lack of pointing or not pointing enough, and pointing, you know, with your whole hand instead of your index finger.
Um, and so a lot of the activities that Rose promotes and I promote for decades-
... is to build the, that social reciprocity back up, and if a child can't point or doesn't point or doesn't point a lot, how to teach those kind of skills in a fun way that's functional and not just teaching to the test so they don't look like they have autism, but actually-
... working on those core skills that I, I think a lot of us miss, no matter what practice we're in.

There's a new test that came out that I just got in the mail called the MODEST that I was looking over, and it, it seems very promising.

But, um, we're just anecdotally looking at these things and including them from observation, and if you don't know, it's kind of like you don't know what you don't know.

You know, I know you have that video, I think of Lucas maybe at his birthday, when he's not looking and you guys are singing Happy Birthday, and it's like that's such a classic autism thing.
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