The Failure That Created A Show
One failure unexpectedly inspired his intimate show.
TrapDraw Podcast – No Laying Up
Aug 13, 2026 · 1 hr 39 min · 19 segments
We’re excited to welcome Stephen Dubner from Freakonomics back to the Trap Draw for a wide ranging chop session with Neil and TC. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation…
Neil SchusterHostTCHostUh, Neil, lead us off, man.
You're-
...
this has been weighing on you.
Okay.

But some, some angry Tesla owners on the door handle take, uh, that, you know...

Uh, I- I'm a big fan of analog door handles, Steven, and Teslas when they're like...

And I- I understand the aerodynamics and aesthetic, but just, you can, you can take it away.

I will be though, TC, I, I, I forgot to apologize about this from, uh, I think from June.

Uh, I, I think I said that New York State is the fourth least densely populated state in the union.

Uh, I'm not sure where I got that stat, but I've been operating like that in my head.

Uh, Neil, lead us off, man.
You're-
...
this has been weighing on you.
Okay.

But some, some angry Tesla owners on the door handle take, uh, that, you know...

Uh, I- I'm a big fan of analog door handles, Steven, and Teslas when they're like...

And I- I understand the aerodynamics and aesthetic, but just, you can, you can take it away.

I will be though, TC, I, I, I forgot to apologize about this from, uh, I think from June.

Uh, I, I think I said that New York State is the fourth least densely populated state in the union.

Uh, I'm not sure where I got that stat, but I've been operating like that in my head.

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The Failure That Created A Show
One failure unexpectedly inspired his intimate show.
Make It Anyway
Creators must work deeply, then release control.
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Negative emotions can become instructions for action.
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