Jon Heder Remembers Napoleon Dynamite, His Kanye Jay Z Collab and Challenges Matt on Nation’s Dumbest

Actor Jon Heder joins the show to talk with Matt Leinart and Jerry Ferrara about his time alongside Matt on Fox’s new reality game show Nation’s Dumbest. Heder tells the guys what got him to join the show, what were his worst subjects, how it was getting to know the cast and compete against them. Plus, Matt gives Jon a little impromptu trivia on his worst subject: Sports. Then Jon talks his star turn as Napoleon Dynamite, how the movie’s success mirrors that of 2026 hits like Obsession and Backrooms and what it’s like to get back into that character. Finally, Jon talks his infamous collab with Kanye and Jay Z and his latest films Waltzing with Brando and Tapawingo, before Jerry has his own round of trivia.   A big thank you to our sponsors:   BetMGM: Make It Legendary. Please gamble responsibly. Download the BetMGM App to get started.    NHTSA: This Moment. Speeding Catches up With You. Paid for by NHTSA.    Uncrustables: Uncrustables sandwiches are ready from your fridge!      - 00:00 Show open <!--THE END--> - 01:43 Matt talks the Nation’s Dumbest Premiere <!--THE END--> - 04:35 NHTSA Speed: Matt’s longest runs <!--THE END--> - 07:30 Jon Heder joins the show <!--THE END--> - 10:50 Why did Jon sign up for Nation’s Dumbest <!--THE END--> - 12:25 What were Jon’s best and worst subjects? <!--THE END--> - 14:30 Recap of the first episode of Nation’s Dumbest <!--THE END--> - 17:33 The difference between filming movies and a reality game show <!--THE END--> - 20:35 Matt quizzes Jon on sports <!--THE END--> - 28:48 The origins of Napoleon Dynamite <!--THE END--> - 32:26 How Napoleon Dynamite paved the way for Obsession and Backrooms <!--THE END--> - 35:23 Jon’s reaction to Napoleon Dynamite box office <!--THE END--> - 38:50 Jerry learned the Napoleon Dynamite dance for an audition <!--THE END--> - 41:18 Jerry’s Argentia – Spain pick <!--THE END--> - 42:20 Jon improvised the famous Napoleon Dynamite dance scene <!--THE END--> - 45:05 Jon on getting back into character for a commercial and Cameos <!--THE END--> - 47:20 On being featured on “Ninjas” In Paris by Kanye and Jay Z <!--THE END--> - 51:00 Matt gives Jerry his own Nation’s Dumbest quiz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices