What if the goal of nervous system work isn't to become calmer—but to become more alive?
In this special episode of *Threshold Moments*, Sarah is joined by Kate Northrup for a conversation originally recorded during an Instagram Live about **Opting Out of Urgency in 2025.**
Kate shares how Sarah's work helped her begin unraveling a deeply ingrained pattern of running her business on adrenaline, and together they explore what becomes possible when we stop treating urgency as the only way to get things done.
Sarah shares why urgency can be so difficult to step away from—especially when it has been rewarded with success—and why opting out isn't about abandoning ambition, productivity, or the things that matter to us. It's about bringing **agency and choice** back into the equation.
They also explore why nervous system regulation doesn't always mean "calming down," what can happen when unexpressed fight-or-flight energy gets stuck in the body, and how creating the right outlets for that energy can lead to more clarity, creativity, joy, and aliveness.
And when you find yourself caught between **"I must" and "I can't,"** Sarah introduces another possibility: **the Sacred Third**—the option we often can't see until our systems have enough support to recognize that another way exists.
In this conversation, Sarah and Kate explore:
- Why urgency can feel necessary—even when it's exhausting us
- The difference between urgency and agency
- Why nervous system regulation isn't synonymous with being calm
- How urgency can be an expression of fight-or-flight energy
- Why your body may respond before your conscious mind creates the story
- The role of expression, movement, and nervous system "outlets"
- What Sarah calls the **tension field** between familiar patterns and a new way of being
- The **Sacred Third** and finding possibilities beyond "I must" or "I can't"
- Why supporting yourself *before* the to-do list is finished can actually change your relationship with time
- What it can look like to build a life and business from life-force energy instead of adrenaline
As Kate says in this conversation, this work isn't simply a nice addition to our lives—it can become foundational to how we work, relate, choose, and move through the world.
**Ready to experience this work for yourself?**
⭐️ If you enjoy this episode, sign up for my free 3-day nervous system reset — Opting Out of Urgency — happening live on Zoom September 10-17. RSVP here: https://www.sarahtacy.com/opting-out-of-urgency
### Connect with Sarah
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