Jul 28, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 11 segments
**Philanthropists and global development donors have made a lot of promises about supporting local leaders and community-based organizations. But their insistence on finding scalable models might be…
Kakenya NtaiyaGuest
Michael IgoeHost
And I think in order to dig in to the substance and content of this conversation that we're about to have, it's important to rehash a bit of that story.

I know you've told it a lot of times, but so much of your own life is intertwined now with your professional mission and As a way into that, I wonder if you could just tell me a little bit about the community that you grew up in.


The community, the majority of the people who live in the community, they are Maasai, so I'm a Maasai.

And we are very well known because we are dressed in red and lots of beads and we love cows and we are warriors.

We are still, as communities have changed, cultures have changed, we are still holding on to most of our cultures.

Um, and yeah, so, you know, it's a typical, you know, we, we were nomads in the beginning before the government instituted that everybody should own land.

So we grazed our cows everywhere and moved along the, you know, different places in search for pasture.

We were interacting with the environment and land and, uh, yeah but we evolved over time and yeah

And so they started coming into our lands and they taught us how to do, you know, plant maize and vegetables and those kind of things.

But our main, main way of living was just cows because everything is measured by how many cows you have.

And I think in order to dig in to the substance and content of this conversation that we're about to have, it's important to rehash a bit of that story.

I know you've told it a lot of times, but so much of your own life is intertwined now with your professional mission and As a way into that, I wonder if you could just tell me a little bit about the community that you grew up in.


The community, the majority of the people who live in the community, they are Maasai, so I'm a Maasai.

And we are very well known because we are dressed in red and lots of beads and we love cows and we are warriors.

We are still, as communities have changed, cultures have changed, we are still holding on to most of our cultures.

Um, and yeah, so, you know, it's a typical, you know, we, we were nomads in the beginning before the government instituted that everybody should own land.

So we grazed our cows everywhere and moved along the, you know, different places in search for pasture.

We were interacting with the environment and land and, uh, yeah but we evolved over time and yeah

And so they started coming into our lands and they taught us how to do, you know, plant maize and vegetables and those kind of things.

But our main, main way of living was just cows because everything is measured by how many cows you have.
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