Jul 29, 2026 · 3 hr 1 min · 15 segments
Hey everybody! Episode 199 of the show is out. In this episode, I spoke with Jacques Mabit. Jacques is the founder of the oldest and most renowned traditional Amazonian medicine center in Peru…
Jacques MabitGuest
Jason GrechanikHost
[intro jingle] On this episode of the podcast, I sat down with Jacques Mabit.

I, I know I say this, uh, at, I think, the intro of every show, but, uh, Jacques truly is a, a fascinating man.


Um, and it was very much a pleasure for me to sit down and speak with Jacques.

I think I mentioned this in the, the end of the interview, but I, uh, I think this probably was one of my favorite and one of the more profound interviews we've done in this channel.

Um, I, I remember that year because it's the year of my birth, and that's when he, um, [clicks tongue] uh, formed Takiwasi, I believe, or at least began this work.

So he's been involved in, in Amazonian plant medicine, cosmovisions, um, for probably close to, to 50 years now, um, maybe a little bit less, 45, something like that.

Um, and he's truly a fountain of wisdom, and, uh, I really enjoyed this conversation.

We spoke about a variety of topics, about, uh, his early life as a, as a Western doctor, about Western cosmovisions, traditional indigenous Amazonian cosmovisions.

I think some of the, the, the pitfalls, the difficulties of combining those worldviews, um, just his experience at, at Takiwasi, um, topics of psychotherapy, of, of bridging different worlds.

It was a really fascinating conversation, and I, I, I really believe and trust you all will gain a lot.

Uh, again, I think it was quite special that he was able to, to sit down and speak with us.
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[intro jingle] On this episode of the podcast, I sat down with Jacques Mabit.

I, I know I say this, uh, at, I think, the intro of every show, but, uh, Jacques truly is a, a fascinating man.


Um, and it was very much a pleasure for me to sit down and speak with Jacques.

I think I mentioned this in the, the end of the interview, but I, uh, I think this probably was one of my favorite and one of the more profound interviews we've done in this channel.

Um, I, I remember that year because it's the year of my birth, and that's when he, um, [clicks tongue] uh, formed Takiwasi, I believe, or at least began this work.

So he's been involved in, in Amazonian plant medicine, cosmovisions, um, for probably close to, to 50 years now, um, maybe a little bit less, 45, something like that.

Um, and he's truly a fountain of wisdom, and, uh, I really enjoyed this conversation.

We spoke about a variety of topics, about, uh, his early life as a, as a Western doctor, about Western cosmovisions, traditional indigenous Amazonian cosmovisions.

I think some of the, the, the pitfalls, the difficulties of combining those worldviews, um, just his experience at, at Takiwasi, um, topics of psychotherapy, of, of bridging different worlds.

It was a really fascinating conversation, and I, I, I really believe and trust you all will gain a lot.

Uh, again, I think it was quite special that he was able to, to sit down and speak with us.