Michael AltendorfHost
Martin KaelbleHostcould say okay because of regulation we are lagging behind but i think that's not the reason and it's too easy we see that the problems are coming we don't react fast enough we see that we need frontier models don't want to invest that much now we are addicted to us models or copies in all dimensions or from open source models from china and the The thing is, we have the potential.
And if you talk to the whole, let's say, eye grout in the different European countries, even also from Switzerland to Paris to whatever, you could see we want and there are people who are very bright and even they came from US back to Europe.
But the capital which is needed to be at the front and develop own models, I think this is already gone.
So the question is more like, okay, what's coming up, where we can be at its best, maybe the combination of AI with industrial processes, but the frontier model race we already have lost.
But why don't they call them a plan? They call it a report, which means sometimes...
Maybe we should do something from that, but we don't have to, or what does it mean? Because two very experienced politicians have very detailed plans, laid out plans, and I think we should execute much faster.
Maybe because we have a democracy and everything is a compromise, we cannot be as fast as some other countries, but at least there are plans on the table, and I would say we should work more on that.

So let's try to structure this a little bit because, again, you mentioned many different challenges.

Some of our most important challenges in Europe, for sure, we have less venture capital.
could say okay because of regulation we are lagging behind but i think that's not the reason and it's too easy we see that the problems are coming we don't react fast enough we see that we need frontier models don't want to invest that much now we are addicted to us models or copies in all dimensions or from open source models from china and the The thing is, we have the potential.
And if you talk to the whole, let's say, eye grout in the different European countries, even also from Switzerland to Paris to whatever, you could see we want and there are people who are very bright and even they came from US back to Europe.
But the capital which is needed to be at the front and develop own models, I think this is already gone.
So the question is more like, okay, what's coming up, where we can be at its best, maybe the combination of AI with industrial processes, but the frontier model race we already have lost.
But why don't they call them a plan? They call it a report, which means sometimes...
Maybe we should do something from that, but we don't have to, or what does it mean? Because two very experienced politicians have very detailed plans, laid out plans, and I think we should execute much faster.
Maybe because we have a democracy and everything is a compromise, we cannot be as fast as some other countries, but at least there are plans on the table, and I would say we should work more on that.

So let's try to structure this a little bit because, again, you mentioned many different challenges.

Some of our most important challenges in Europe, for sure, we have less venture capital.
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