Aug 11, 2026 · 53 min · 12 segments
Environmental journalist and author Anthea Batsakis joins The Sustainable Hour to explore Australia’s extraordinary world of overlooked wildlife.
Anthea BatsakisGuest
Colin Mockett
Mik AidtHost
Tony GleesonHostAll the problems we face, we also have the resources to deal with them.
Whether it's climate change, whether it's the rise of AI, we have the resources.
What we usually lack is the motivation and the ability to cooperate with one another.
I mean, you know, some people think that to solve the big problems, you always need to use violence, like you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.
But when you look at history, it's absolutely not true.
You think, for instance, about the feminist revolution.
After thousands of years of a huge injustice, feminism made a huge change in the social structure of humanity.
Without starting any wars, without assassinating anybody, no guillotines in city square, So that's one of the hopeful examples of how people can, just by changing the story, also change the world.
I mean, the idea that stories kind of fuel history, there is a positive promise there, that if it's all about power, the only way to change power structures is with violence.
But if it's really at least in part about the stories people believe, then potentially by talking with people and changing the stories in which they believe, you can change the world.
And I have sensed that so much since last week when we talked about the new book that I have put out.
I have been contacted by so many people who are on that same pathway of changing the world through the stories that we tell and the conversations that we have with one another.
A lot of people have been asking me, you know, Mick, we know you as a climate activist.
Why are you suddenly writing a book about men and masculinity? What does that have to do with climate? And I really found in this week evidence that it turns out quite a bit Because of all the reactions I'm getting in social media from people from around the world, psychologists and climate experts, journalists, writers and so on, who have been in a similar exploration of this, you know, the deeper level of why do we even have a climate crisis? How come that people have absolutely no responsibility and they're only thinking about profits? And it's interesting, certainly for me now, to be in touch with so many people around the planet who have come to a similar conclusion.
Someone wrote to me that she thinks that testosterone, the male hormone, is the most dangerous chemical on the planet right now.
because of how it's driving the patriarch system, the predatory greed, and eventually the climate collapse.
All the problems we face, we also have the resources to deal with them.
Whether it's climate change, whether it's the rise of AI, we have the resources.
What we usually lack is the motivation and the ability to cooperate with one another.
I mean, you know, some people think that to solve the big problems, you always need to use violence, like you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs.
But when you look at history, it's absolutely not true.
You think, for instance, about the feminist revolution.
After thousands of years of a huge injustice, feminism made a huge change in the social structure of humanity.
Without starting any wars, without assassinating anybody, no guillotines in city square, So that's one of the hopeful examples of how people can, just by changing the story, also change the world.
I mean, the idea that stories kind of fuel history, there is a positive promise there, that if it's all about power, the only way to change power structures is with violence.
But if it's really at least in part about the stories people believe, then potentially by talking with people and changing the stories in which they believe, you can change the world.
And I have sensed that so much since last week when we talked about the new book that I have put out.
I have been contacted by so many people who are on that same pathway of changing the world through the stories that we tell and the conversations that we have with one another.
A lot of people have been asking me, you know, Mick, we know you as a climate activist.
Why are you suddenly writing a book about men and masculinity? What does that have to do with climate? And I really found in this week evidence that it turns out quite a bit Because of all the reactions I'm getting in social media from people from around the world, psychologists and climate experts, journalists, writers and so on, who have been in a similar exploration of this, you know, the deeper level of why do we even have a climate crisis? How come that people have absolutely no responsibility and they're only thinking about profits? And it's interesting, certainly for me now, to be in touch with so many people around the planet who have come to a similar conclusion.
Someone wrote to me that she thinks that testosterone, the male hormone, is the most dangerous chemical on the planet right now.
because of how it's driving the patriarch system, the predatory greed, and eventually the climate collapse.
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