Fr. Ron Rolheiser maps the spiritual journey across three stages: getting your life together, giving your life away, and — the one no one prepares you for — giving your death away. Drawing on monastic wisdom and the mystics, he shows how marriage, the monotony of daily work, and even illness, aging, and death can each become a deep spiritual practice.
In this conversation, we talk about how loneliness, restlessness, and helplessness can become gifts to ourselves and loved ones.
At seventy-eight, and having lived with stage four cancer for twelve years, Fr. Rolheiser shares half a century of wisdom about what it means to live and die well.
Fr. Ron Rolheiser is an Oblate of Mary Immaculate and the author of many books, including *The Holy Longing*, *Sacred Fire*, *Bruised and Wounded*, *Domestic Monastery*, and most recently *Insane for the Light: A Spirituality for Our Wisdom Years.*
https://ronrolheiser.com/en/
**Chapters**00:00 Get your life together, give your life away, give your death away
03:56 "Vocation isn't something you choose, it chooses you"
08:33 "Nothing has seared me like that": The neighbor who died by suicide
11:54 "Celibacy is Unnatural": Sex and Connection
15:51 Solidarity with the Poor and Lonely
18:38 Social Loneliness vs. Moral Loneliness
23:30 Restlessness is a longing for God
28:35 No Finished Symphony: Why Your Spouse Can't Be Your God
36:03 Forgiving God for not rescuing you
39:38 A Redeeming God, Not a Rescuing God: "Tell the people to learn how to wait"
44:48 Pondering: Carrying Tension Without Passing It On
53:45 The Domestic Monastery
01:02:14 Martha and Mary: Action and Contemplation
01:10:21 Student, Householder, Forest-dweller, & Holy Old Beggar
01:18:44 Twelve Years with Stage Four Cancer
01:22:17 Give up the illusion of self-sufficiency
01:30:33 Your helplessness can be a gift
01:35:21 Letting go of "I don't want to be a burden"
01:40:48 Teaching keeps you real
01:42:41 Prayer as supplication and praying without asking for consolation
Intro and outro music by @BenBigelow3
*A note: this episode includes discussion of suicide and of assisted dying. If you are struggling, you can call or text 988 in the US to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.*