The Second Voice with Luisa Hogan
Sep 18, 2026 · 34 min · 8 segments
Most leaders believe resilience means pushing harder, staying strong, and finding answers fast. But what happens when life puts you in a season where nothing can be forced forward — not your business…
Bill DerrickGuest
Luisa HoganHost
So if that was your definition of strong leadership, and you've hinted at this already, but what does the definition of strong or good leadership look like to you now?

I think in my world right now, And keep in mind, Louisa, that where I'm at with my business now, it's succession planning.

Myself and my brother are in the process of looking at how to pass that to the third generation of leadership.

that most important role that I play now is a sense of being able to assess situations and not just, you know, strong leader doesn't just, okay, I've got this figured out.

Strong leader sits back and assesses what's going on, listening to other people on his leadership team or on his staff or whatever.

and almost to the point where the leader doesn't necessarily make the decision.

Now, obviously, in leadership, you've got to make sure that you agree with where it's heading.

But as long as you're allowing your staff to take you where you need to be, that's what a strong leader does.

Now, that also means a strong leader isn't a leader who's always taking credit for what's going on.

You have to be willing to submit to what's going on and just say, you know, sometimes other people deserve the credit.

Sometimes you hear leaders say, I'm the type of leader that when something goes wrong, I take the blame for it.

And especially, you know, we have a team now, we're 90 people strong, that type of thing, all sorts of people.

And, and, uh, I tell, I tell our leaders that sometimes the best you can do is make suggestions.

And you may get shot down right away, but if it's a good idea, somewhere down the road, it'll be brought back up again at the right time.

So if that was your definition of strong leadership, and you've hinted at this already, but what does the definition of strong or good leadership look like to you now?

I think in my world right now, And keep in mind, Louisa, that where I'm at with my business now, it's succession planning.

Myself and my brother are in the process of looking at how to pass that to the third generation of leadership.

that most important role that I play now is a sense of being able to assess situations and not just, you know, strong leader doesn't just, okay, I've got this figured out.

Strong leader sits back and assesses what's going on, listening to other people on his leadership team or on his staff or whatever.

and almost to the point where the leader doesn't necessarily make the decision.

Now, obviously, in leadership, you've got to make sure that you agree with where it's heading.

But as long as you're allowing your staff to take you where you need to be, that's what a strong leader does.

Now, that also means a strong leader isn't a leader who's always taking credit for what's going on.

You have to be willing to submit to what's going on and just say, you know, sometimes other people deserve the credit.

Sometimes you hear leaders say, I'm the type of leader that when something goes wrong, I take the blame for it.

And especially, you know, we have a team now, we're 90 people strong, that type of thing, all sorts of people.

And, and, uh, I tell, I tell our leaders that sometimes the best you can do is make suggestions.

And you may get shot down right away, but if it's a good idea, somewhere down the road, it'll be brought back up again at the right time.
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