The Report Card with Nat Malkus
Aug 26, 2026 · 58 min · 10 segments
Many schools today offer mental health programming, but according to Carolyn Gorman, a lot of school mental health programming is not only wasteful and ineffective but also directionally misguided…
Carolyn GormanGuest
Nat MalkusHost
I hear this a lot from my friends on the right, that there's some kind of Trojan horse school mental health initiative function going on where it introduces students to a range of, you know, politically or culturally loaded ideas.

How valid do you think that concern is? And if there's something to it, is it sort of a calculated thing or is it just sort of the way ideas flow through these systems?

The professional associations for mental health practitioners are not shy about this.

their statements of support and what they support and what they support is typically these types of progressive ideology ideas that have been talked about a lot in the kind of culture war conversations, things like gender, things like race.

social-emotional learning, trauma-informed practices, a lot of that ends up having a race element to it.


But their professional associations are telling them that that's best practice.


And so they don't have to meet the same regulatory obligations that professionals in community settings or private practice would have to face.

The healthcare system and the education system have different rules, different laws around student privacy, different practices, and those can be in conflict when we deliver these services through schools.

And in one fundamental way, we really do not have any systematic tracking of whether parental consent is being met and enforced.

So you might have told the school that you don't want your child to participate in these programs, but if they're universal, it's really hard for that to actually be applied.

I hear this a lot from my friends on the right, that there's some kind of Trojan horse school mental health initiative function going on where it introduces students to a range of, you know, politically or culturally loaded ideas.

How valid do you think that concern is? And if there's something to it, is it sort of a calculated thing or is it just sort of the way ideas flow through these systems?

The professional associations for mental health practitioners are not shy about this.

their statements of support and what they support and what they support is typically these types of progressive ideology ideas that have been talked about a lot in the kind of culture war conversations, things like gender, things like race.

social-emotional learning, trauma-informed practices, a lot of that ends up having a race element to it.


But their professional associations are telling them that that's best practice.


And so they don't have to meet the same regulatory obligations that professionals in community settings or private practice would have to face.

The healthcare system and the education system have different rules, different laws around student privacy, different practices, and those can be in conflict when we deliver these services through schools.

And in one fundamental way, we really do not have any systematic tracking of whether parental consent is being met and enforced.

So you might have told the school that you don't want your child to participate in these programs, but if they're universal, it's really hard for that to actually be applied.
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