The RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast
Jun 30, 2026 · 57 min · 11 segments
In this episode of the RAL Room Assisted Living Podcast, Charlie Cameron sits down with Shane Pogue, founder of Verum Capital, to discuss why due diligence is one of the most important—and often…
Shane PogueGuestEverwood Reserve OwnerPanelist
Charlie CameronHost
Alex SchloeHost
Specifically, I wanted to talk today about health care, due diligence in health care, because this is one of the areas where it's not done enough because you stick it.
Whenever you go into it, you need to be very careful about how you conduct yourself because not only is anything you do a legal risk or in a regulatory risk, it's also a reputational risk.
I've seen operators who've unfortunately lost their W-2 job after they messed up really bad in the healthcare industry because...
Their employer found out about it, and they just did not want to be associated with that person anymore.
But it's a very unfortunate situation, and people really need to be prepared for what the realities are in going into healthcare.
A lot of the RAL room members are very familiar with this kind of situation because...
So one thing I always have to get across is you have to be very careful with who you partner with.
And you have to be very careful on how you're complying with regulatory requirements.
If you've operated in the assisted living space or the care home space for long enough, eventually you're going to have a state inspection.
But if you work with them and you say, hey, this is how we plan to fix this, or most of the time they'll actually help you fix it.
If that keeps being a recurring issue, they become deficiencies or you could even be fined by the state for what keeps happening.
Specifically, I wanted to talk today about health care, due diligence in health care, because this is one of the areas where it's not done enough because you stick it.
Whenever you go into it, you need to be very careful about how you conduct yourself because not only is anything you do a legal risk or in a regulatory risk, it's also a reputational risk.
I've seen operators who've unfortunately lost their W-2 job after they messed up really bad in the healthcare industry because...
Their employer found out about it, and they just did not want to be associated with that person anymore.
But it's a very unfortunate situation, and people really need to be prepared for what the realities are in going into healthcare.
A lot of the RAL room members are very familiar with this kind of situation because...
So one thing I always have to get across is you have to be very careful with who you partner with.
And you have to be very careful on how you're complying with regulatory requirements.
If you've operated in the assisted living space or the care home space for long enough, eventually you're going to have a state inspection.
But if you work with them and you say, hey, this is how we plan to fix this, or most of the time they'll actually help you fix it.
If that keeps being a recurring issue, they become deficiencies or you could even be fined by the state for what keeps happening.
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